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Posted by andreas from ( on Friday, November 29, 2002 at 4:33PM :

Please, check out a Real Player file on Democracy NOW! featuring

- 45 min of sound bites excerpted from the Kissinger film
- + part of a Howard Zinn lecture on regime change and Thanksgiving.

November 28, 2002
on Democracy NOW!
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Today on Thanksgiving we bring you an hour long talk from one of the country's most respected historians, Howard Zinn. In his classic People's History of the United States Zinn breaks down the myths around the history of Thanksgiving.

He writes, "When the Pilgrims came to New England they too were coming not to vacant land but to territory inhabited by tribes of Indians. The governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, John Winthrop, created the excuse to take Indian land by declaring the area legally a "vacuum." The Indians, he said, had not 'subdued' the land, and therefore had only a 'natural' right to it, but not a 'civil right.' A 'natural right' did not have legal standing."

Zinn goes on to report how the Europeans succeeded in almost annihilating the native population. Zinn quotes a Dutch traveler in New Netherland in 656 who wrote, "the Indians before the arrival of the Christians, and before the smallpox broke out amongst them, were ten times as numerous as they now are their population has been melted down by this disease nine-tenths of them have died."

Zinn estimates that approximately 10 million native peoples lived in the Americas before the discovery of the New World by Columbus. A couple of centuries later less than a million remain.

On this Thanksgiving day as the Bush administration prepares to wage war on Iraq, we present a recent lecture from Howard Zinn on recorded at Brown University.


Howard Zinn, historian and author of A People's History of the United States, speaking at Brown University, November 2002.

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