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Posted by Jeff (Guest) jeff@attoz.com - Monday, October 6 2003, 23:10:38 (EDT)
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>How can an Assyrian (be he muslim, jewish or Christian) since it is only an ethnicity not a religion, be ignorant of the genocides or the attacks by the muslims, or the denial of existence by many Arab countries. I think you should go live in the Middle East with a sign saying "ASSYRIAN" hung around ur neck, and well see how long you last in Iraq, or Iran, or even Saudi Arabia. Yes maybe our alliance with Britain has tainted our reputation, but any historian or researched person would have read and discovered that it was a forced alliance. The Young Turk government of the Ottoman Empire had proclaimed a jihad against the Christian population of not only Turkey but the whole Middle East, at this time the Ottoman Empire was on the Axis side. The unfortanate and MINORITY Christian population was purged and killed through many acts that made the Holocaust of the Jews seem peaceful. The castration, the rape of 12 year olds (my grandmother's sister who was 12 yrs old was raped by the Ottoman soldiers), and the butchering of clergy was not only a attack on Christians but ASSYRIANS. In the Proclamation of Jihad, the Ottoman Empire didnt just say CHRISTIANS, but said "Armenians and Assyrians." This classified them as Christians. WIth this, the British and the Russians offered the Assyrian an alliance that would supply them with arms to defend themselves (read the account of the siege of Gerbia) and a prospect of having a country if the allies win. I consider this a forced alliance, because without the hand of the Brits we were forced to face this monster with nothing we were terribly equiped and we were surrounded by jihads (the kurds were in on this too). We had to fight, if not you may not have been here, i know i would not. They started it Fred, not us.
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>Read in on the history and maybe you may understand why the majority of Assyrian even your relatives consider you an irony......like a jewish nazi!!!

*** Amen for calling Assyrian a non-religious title... if only the rest of your writing was consistent with that.

*** In my opinion, a Jewish Nazi (yes, they did exist) is more a tragedy than an irony.

*** The Ottoman empire was being slowly carved up over a long period of time... Egypt was taken over by the British, and other areas were taken over as well.

The Armenians started an uprising at Van and sided with the Russian troops, who had made an agreement with France and England that if they were to go to war with the Ottoman Empire, that if they won, they would receive Constantinople, as well as several other nice gems of land.

When the Russians withdrew from battle and retreated, you can only imagine the hell on earth that the Armenians and others faced when the Turks came strolling in... as a direct result of their uprising. I'm not saying the mass killing of the Armenians and others was justified by any means, but can you see how and why the Turks were angry?

If there was an uprising in Dearborn, Michigan and the Arabs in Dearborn, along with a foreign occupation force from, say, Bahrain came in and overtook Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, and Wisconsin for a while, and then the Bahrain force withdrew and the US forces took back all of those states, can you imagine that those people would have to bear the consequences???

We could analyze the past for the next 100 years... why not look toward the future?



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