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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Wednesday, March 10 2004, 17:58:10 (EST)
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"I am glad you mentioned women's sufferage... then how do you justify the despicable way most Muslim countries treat their women like second class citizens at the best and like dogs at the worst?"

...they do not. You´re talking about America´s allies..the extremists they´ve been funding and building up to give them the pretext they needed. I lived in the MidEast...women were treated just fine...within gross limits...as they were all over Europe for centuries. Remember...Muhammad first worked for his wife...where did that happen in the West at that time or any time back then? And for how long have Christian men and their church blamed their own hard-pns on women...and blamed Eve for the Fall of Man?

Also...Islam is 700 years younger than Christianity...go back 700 years in Christian history to 1300 AD and you´ll see how women were treated....like cows, whores and trash. Muslim women have a long road to walk...and the women of Iraq were already far down that one...I have cousins who under Saddam were athletic leaders and engineers and doctors...you are refering to the extremists and the Christian extremists are just as bad..it was at a recent Baptist World Convention that the entire heirarchy reaffiremed the fact that a woman´s place is under her husband...and countless women will die again..and unwanted babies dumped on us all if they have their way and get rid of abortion...

Of course Islam has a long way to go..being under seige for so long develops a seige mentality and that brings arch-conservatism to the fore...as is happening in America...give Islam time...or don´t. Till that day and either way...murdering 500,000 born and living and breathing mother´s children in the most cruel way imagineable, is hardly an enlightened way to treat women...



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