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Posted by farid (Guest) - Saturday, October 11 2003, 13:31:35 (EDT)
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On the subject of Jihad, other than the fact that it's misunderstood, either willfully or stupidly...and by the way what are Christian soldiers "marching as to war"?...the only Jihad in history I can think of is the hounding of the Jews by Christians for nearly 2000 years. Just as the only true Genocide was the Christian one directed against these same hapless Jews whose greatest crime seems to have been giving Jesus to the world in the first place. If our Christians as well as the Greeks and Armenians would call what happened to some of them in the Ottoman Empire a genocide then what was the basis for the carving up of the Ottoman lands and the murder thereby of millions of their own citizens...Love? What were the reasons for a war drummed up against the Sultan because Turkey was the, "sick man of Europe", charity and sweet Christian tenderness? Since when is it policy anywhere to kill old sick men? Or for that matter who ever had an "acceptable policy" of starving to death "enemy" children? These crimes committed against people, while not properly genocides or jihads are certainly murderous...or isn't that offensive enough any longer?

And to put a cork up Aprim's arse, though it wouldn't shut him up...where do these numbers of genocided and martyred Christians come from and why are they even accepted when no one was keeping track except in very sloppy, unofficial and self-serving ways? And why is it that our "Assyrians" will accept these figures uncrittically indeed the more the merrier...while at the same time refusing to believe figures for dead children in Iraq compiled by the United Nations whose only interest was in recording actual, verfiable AND recent numbers? And further, when Tiglath deduced a simple process of determining how many of those 5000 children killed a month must be Christian Assyrians...based on the percentage of Christian Assyrians in the population of Muslim Assyrians...and arrived at seven killed a day...why did Aprim and BooHoo and the rest of them, who never questioned the numbers killed when Muslims were accused...why did they scoff and refuse to accept the idea that bombs and disease and starvation can no more tell the difference, or care much for it, between a Christian and a Muslim than I can...but take them all off?

What's really operating here? Is it a. love for people....b. love for Assyrian people...c. love for Christians...d. love for Christian Assyrians or e. hatred for Islam?

Let me see if I get this straight...you set up a superior army to attack civillians day and night until some fathers and brothers and sons and husbands and daughters and wives and sisters strap bombs onto their bodies and lose them because they have no other means of fighting back to protect their homes, orchards and families...and when they do you call THEM terrorists and declare an open war of "self-defense" against THEM and send in your soldiers against sleeping families while the world could give a shit because your murdering soldiers wear uniforms and fly attack helicopters and the other side has neither??? Attacking these families and defending yourself from them is "war"...but if the families fight back and defend themselves it's "Terror"? Wullah, Hanna's amazing dictionary of the English language is in wide circulation.

Clearly Israel and America's policies are much closer to a declaration of "Jihad" and official state-sponsored and excecuted genocide than anything that ever happened in Turkey. It was the West that was lining up, publicly drooling over the spoils that would come their way...if only there were good enough pretexts to go to war...the Turks weren't bothering anybody except their own people which every Western nation has been doing with impunity since it came into being.

The Western Europeans made no secret of wanting to provoke a war against the Ottoman Empire and the Christians within the empire were one sure way to arouse the world's "indignation", but only if someone committed some indignities against them. Had the Sultan's most backward citizens, the common rabble every nation has in reserve, not provided the necessary savagery, surely the British would have been glad to set them on...as our own Christians now are eager for any signs of Muslim "crimes" against Christians and in their own weak way try to instigate same long-distance.

The Christian Church in Germany, as elsewhere, has labored for centuries to brand the Jews as not only the killers of Christ when it was the Romans themselves who did it, but has taught and allowed it's "princes" to hound and abuse them from generation to generation, with a very few noble exceptions, right up to the gates of Auschwitz and Treblinka...and beyond, as when recently the blood drinking, flesh eating fuckers wanted to plant a huge cross and build a nunnery right across the road...just so the world would "never forget" who authored these crimes in the first place. A move vigorously opposed and rightfully so, by Jews everywhere as adding unbelieveable insult to immesureable injury. Anyone looking back dispassionately at the recorded crimes of official Christianity against the Jews would have to come to the conclusion that the church declared war against Jewish men, women and children ages ago and persued that policy deliberately and relentlessly till Christians were properly conditioned and prepared to stand by and watch them rounded up and driven to their deaths, literally. It took that many centuries to nurture the seed. It was well done and almost succeeded. You can never fault Christianity for not trying.

As much as our Christians talk of an official state-sanctioned "jihad" and reign of terror directed agianst Christians in Ottoman lands...they've provided no such documentation. And if they were singled out it is because they single themselves out...first, as primarily Christians and only after as unwilling or enforced subjects of a "Muslim" state...a religion they make no secret of despising and regarding just as they do now...when they are free to curse and malign it. They make no bones whatsoever about where their loyalties are..to Israel first, then to the Christian West. If the day comes in America when a Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson becomes president...as many in America would wish..we'll see what kind of "Turk" reigns over us.

Even our Christians, with so much reason to be proud of being Assyrian...reserve their real interests and expend their real energies on being Christian. You'd have to forgive someone for drawing the conclusion that their loyalties are directed towards Israel and not BetNahrain as it must have seemed to the Ottomans that a Christian's loyalties went, not to their own government first but somewhere else. This ass who's posting here now has the nerve to raise the issue of "faith"...by which he means faith in a Jew carpenter from Israel and loyalty to a Pollack in Rome and not to Ashur...which he feels is a silly thing to have...a long dead thing that he's secretly glad died because Ashur never promised anyone as degenerate as he is a free ride to heaven on the corpse of anybody. Ashur expected work done on behalf of his people...that simple...and that's something quite the opposite of what our Christian "Assyrians" do or have done for a long, long time now or even want to do.

One more church anyone?



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