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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Tuesday, March 23 2004, 17:40:18 (EST)
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in this post by George Stiffo you get a good overview of what these people are all about...I don`t mean what`s ACTUALLY taking place in the world but how they PERCEIVE it. You can tell when Hanna, who they installed as their moderator, tells you that the standard English language dictionaries are not for them becaiuse they don`t conform to THEIR world view...that they see the world through a cracked lens very darkly indeed. Once they get an idea into their heads there is no way in the world to dislodge it. And...being always on the periphery and refusing to leave those villages of their minds..they have no real idea what the hell takes place in the world or behind closed government doors and when one of us sodes get past those doors and works in the REAL world...guess what...he`s a TRAITOR anyway and not to be believes because he "sold out" to somebody or other. It`s like if you go inside government or out in the world and bring them back some more factual information and it doesn`t conform to what they made up to suit themselves...that THAT act alone makes you a traitor and a sell-out...that "intelligence...curiosity...seeking out facts that may not be pleasing"...these action..in other words behaving like a sane person...automatically and all on their own make a TRAITOR you...wullah you HAVE to be stupid to be their kind of Assyrian...anyway, here`s George...

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Re: Arameans of Syria dislike Assyrians!

Posted By: George Stifo (host250.bayer.com)
Date: Tuesday, 23 March 2004, at 8:00 a.m.

In Response To: Arameans of Syria dislike Assyrians! (Zak Antoon)

Dear Zak,

Before answering your question, you need to know a little about the history of the Aramaic Democratic Organization (ARDO). This organization was created for the reason of spite and opposition to the Assyrian movement in Syria.

...okay. Now they`re going to say that whenever someone else sets up anything because they can`t understand why you don`t want to UNIFY...which means accept their notions of reality...so as soon as you take a stand for your own weird views...you MUST be out to spite them. Children feel the same way.

Many believe the Syrian government had created it or was behind its creation

...it should come as no surprise that the boys have retarted mental faculties...they fail to mention that since the governments over there are ALL muslim, that there isn`t any street that can be paved without it being paved wrong for a Christian. When they arrive in the West they flip over and see NOTHING wrong anywhere...so you can`t really rust their critical faculties...they merely support their teamview over another teamview.

since the ADO had gained and still upholds a huge support among the people in Syria.

..."huge", under the best of times is highly subjective and where simple truths are concerned..there IS no good time among the boys. If most organizations have five member...the one with seven is going to be HUGE.

The ARDO on the other hand has nearly no members in Syria, nor does it enjoy a large support from the public.

...you want to ask which public and how in heavins name they conducted their survey...see the wonderful thing about the boys is that things are what they say they are...it`s no accident they`re so childish, as if they were still in shorts and their adoring mothers allowed them to have whatever they wanted because who wants to make the little dears cry...and without being opposed as they grew up and committed one blunder after another they come to a sort of adulthood where what they say HAS to be or else you`re being spiteful and hateful and mean and nasty and won`t give them the toy they`re crying for.

This is despite the massive attempts by the government and Churches to promote it and other anti-Assyrian parties or anti-ADO parties.

...Syria is a Muslim country...what are churches doing in this sentence...I don`t get it and if George explained it for 100 years neither would...nor does he.

The ARDO has a few members in Europe whose stands are useless and they only believe in one thing and that is to be anti-Assyrian.

...someone tell me a stand that has been useful...by any of them..and just is "useful" anyway? They`ll tell you what I do is useless..that`s because they have no use for it. To them, dictionaries are also useless.

I was born and raised in Syria and lived there for almost 20 years and I had never heard of the ARDO over there and the first time I heard of them was 2 years ago through the internet.

...you`ve spent several years in America and you never heard of the Bill of Rights either...you have very poor hearing in general when it comes to things unpleasant.

A few years ago, there was quite a split between the Church and the Assyrian movement.

...that phrase deserves spitting on. The church itself represents a HUGE rift away from the Assyrian people. It has nothing more to do with them than the chains attached to Africans as they too were led into the man`s church.

The government interfered in many instances by creating more anti-Assyrian or anti-ADO parties such as the Progressive Syriac Party which died out in a couple of years.

...considering none of them will come within ten miles of any government agencies or positions, how do they know the government is behind all these knock-offs? They don`t...but remember, they don`t NEED to know...they don`t need to know what the word "martyr" means either...they have their own uses for it and that`s good enough for them..for verily they dwel in their own reality...hanna even tried to prove that rivers run uphill and that BetHanrain could have as easily been refering to the real center of the Assyrian empire which consisted of the space in his village "between teo rivers" where he was born. They shot their own intellectual credibility down long long ago...every instance in which they try to sound sane and rational just reminds you they`re playing or lying.

They also tried the tribalist movement among Eastern Assyrians through Zayya Mallik Ismail who was a puppet of the Baathi regime and was set as a member of the parliament for two terms.

...do you dislike the IDEA of puppets just who pulls the strings? Saddam was a puppet...the current administration in Iraq are all puppets and the grand puppet of them all is Bush, whom you all thanked for being YOUR favorite puppet. It`s a lot like Saturday morning cartoons in your Assyria.

He is the one responsible for imprisoning Assyrian nationalists and must be treated the same way as Tariq Aziz.

...and fuck you too. What you call "nationalists" can be nothing more than thugs and fools making these outlandidh claims too loudly. There were plenty of Afro-American and Native "nationalists" who got killed and jailed by the FBI for espousing "nationalist" sentiments. There was the drunken fellow who while being arrested was yelling that he was an ASSYRIAN KING. Had that happened in Syria you`d be saying..."A nationalist was jailed today by the cruel government"...give it a rest will ya.

Recently, the government began to attempt to split our people through the Church of the East by pushing it to support a newly created party in the Khabour region calling itself the Assyrian Democratic Party whose members are followers of the Church of the East only and heavily tribal and denominational.

...no one needs to or cares to split you people. You are a headache unto yourselves...you have done the splitting away from Ashur in the first place and then you split some more among a bewildering array of sects each with one added goody to offer you...and you think someone else did this terrible thing to you...can you people take responsibility for NOTHING???

I don't want to go into details about what the ADO did in Syria and its past stands or how its members were imprisoned by the Baath Party and tortured for decades.

...a country has a right to make laws and define crime. It happens everywhere...in America there are LOTS of political prisoners in jail...Dr Wen Ho Lee comes to mind...but no Chinese people accused the United States of wholesale whatevers..though the Chinese community knew full well this was a politically motivated injustice and the government was roundly scolded by the judge. It happens all the time that criminals get jailed and find Jesus the moment the prison door slams shut...the same can happen with "nationalists". Besides if you were really against injustice you would speak out about it as a principle...you wouldn`t keep your mouth shut in America where there`s plenty of injustice to go around. It`s just a team sport to you boys.

I think its stands are clear to everyone and their actions in the past and present speak clear for themselves.

...NOTHING about you people is clear and as for speaking for yourselves...you do such a dismal job that no one can undertsand any of you.

I will talk about the past few years and the current situation. In the past few years, the ADO was heavily opposed by the Churches because of the government, but it held its ground.

...churches churches churches churches churches churches churches churches...that`s all this...one sect one denomination against ten others.

I was impressed with one thing in Syria during my recent trip a few months ago.

...the size of the cock on that bishop you were smiling next to...the one who couldn`t bring his knees together? Why the smile?

I noticed the ADO is being looked at by most people as the political voice of the Christians in Jazireh.

...my, how observant we are when we like what we see.

I was astonished that not only our people, but also other groups such as the Armenians are supporting it also. It is amazing that during the rigged Parliament elections a year ago, when the government nominees got more votes than the total number of voters,

...did you "observe" anything interesting when the Supreme Court named Bush president...even though it was rigged in Florida??? Did you observe too that he didn`t win the people`s vote but was installed over us anyway..and did you further "observe" that he bombed Iraq the next day and further that he lied about WMDs and everything else and went on to murder more of our children and is now occupying our land with the help of more Levies...or did that all slip past you?

the ADO was still able to get a large number of votes that exceeded the total Kurdish voting number in the region. This is despite the attempts of the government to not allow people to vote for the ADO in addition to the government creating and backing nominees who were backed by either Nestorian or Jacobite groups and Churches.

...you could be discussing the last presidential election in America as well...but you like what Bush did...so it`s all okay...back in the nursery are we?

In any case, pay no attention to the AramaicDO and any of these political groups who only exist on paper.

...that`s where you ALL exist!

Regards,
George Stifo

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