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the natives get restless...or...heeheheh
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Tuesday, March 2 2004, 21:55:25 (EST)
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oh oh...someone finally noticed that when you vist aina or beth, you're about as far from Assyria as Chicago is. It's funny though..I mean about the part where she agrees that no insults to Assyria should be allowed...would anyone be surprised to hear me at least say that aina and beth and Zindalite are ALL inults to any Assyria you'd care to mention?

They are getting exactly what they deserve though I doubt they'll EVER LEARN...when you allow yourself to be banned and deleted and that's what they've been doing...every time Peter banned someone they too didn't like..the day was coming closer when Peter might get another hair up his arse and ban YOU. The Nazis didn't come for the professors and writers and composers and actors and philosophers first...they tested the waters by coming for the Gypsies..the winos..the perverts...the homosexuals...the Bolsheviks and Drug Addicts...because all of the "good" Germans...INCLUDING the Jewish ones...agreed with them that things should be "cleaned up"...and when the Nazis were sure no one would speak out on behalf of the despised ones whom EVERYONE could see WERE despicable, "I mean LOOK at them"!...when the Laws had been slightly altered one year, and then tweaked just a bit more the next...and the next...THEN they came for the ones they'd been gunning for all along..and by the way..thanks for the help in getting rid of those others...and making the path to your own doorstep that much easier to tread.

It just so happens that some people "Like" Kakovitch...it also just so happens that Peter doesn't...and those Peter happens to like...are not liked by the others. This is no way to run a forum or democracy...it is the way Tyrannies are run. Democracy is a PRINCIPLE and a damn tough one to live up to...but it is the only one that recognizes your right to dignity and respect...ESPECIALLY if you are unpopular. This concept is totally lost on these hill tribes who more than anything else want RESPECT...but haven't the foggiest notion of how you go about earning it and not DEMANDING it.

At our forum they could be as free as they want...except they don't want to be free...because then others would be free to "insult Assyria". They don't see that people make their own chains...they created their own banning and deleting atmosphere whenever they were glad to see Tiglath or me or anyone else "removed" because of "insults". It was only a matter of time...because that microphone in Peter's hand...goes to his head..and he has a particularly weak and ugly one...it's bound to....it's a heady experience to push a button and have the problems that confound you disappear...like Alexander, who hated being deleted by Peter and couldn't stand Andreas and begged me to ban what bothered HIM...and didn't like it when I deleted HIM instead...

These are subtleties lost on these hill people...




To: Admin I demand you reinstate Mr. Kakovitch!

Posted By: Shamiram Daniali (adsl-67-127-119-200.dsl.sktn01.pacbell.net)
Date: Tuesday, 2 March 2004, at 6:28 p.m.

Mr. BetBasoo,

You did it again! You deleted my response to Ms. Amira Bet-Shmoel this morning.

I am trying to understand your policies and standards for this forum. You have replied to Jajo’s request that this forum’s policy used to be on top of the page but somehow was lost after you changed IP for your website. I, having a very strong photographic memory do not remember any policy showing before the changes you made. I might be wrong and look forward for you to post a CLEAR policy of "do’s" and "don’ts on this forum.

In my humble opinion, I think that you should only have 2 things unacceptable here,

1. Any kind of insult to “ASSYRIA”. For example, a couple days ago someone by the name Elizabeth posted a two word post “ S…W Assyria”. I replied and admonished her. Not too long after, I noticed the post had disappeared as it should have. You didn’t hear a complain from me, nor anyone else.

2. Any kind of profanity.

Other than those two, everything else falls under the freedom of speech.

You Sir need to remember that this is not your home. If we were to come to your house, you could very well refuse us entry and the chai and kaddeh. You have created this public forum for Assyrians and whether we have told you this before or not, it is a great service you have made available for us to share our thoughts and concerns. But, does that give you the right to simply ban people and delete their posts all because they don’t support YOUR particular political views? Remember, we are in a public forum and not YOUR private domain.

In one of your replies to people’s objections of banning Ivan, you answered “the problem is people think this is ADM forum and it’s not”. You can not fault the participants if the ADM members make all their announcements on this forum yet they have repeatedly refused to provide us the contact information for ADM headquarters in U.S!!!!

In my post to Amira, I called Kanna the Yhuda in the “Passion movie”. I even suggested that he too may be able to find a rope in the desert!
1. I did not insult Assyria, only a leader that we perceive has betrayed us just like Yhuda.
2. I did not use any profanity as many of YOUR ADM FRIENDS have on this forum and got away with it.

So, why did you delete my post? Is it any of your business what I compare the man who calls himself MY representative with? Would you have deleted this post if it was written by someone else and Yhuda was someone other than Kanna?
Are we or are we not in a public forum?
Are we or are we not considering ourselves Democratic?
Are we or are we not all entitled to our opinion?

Your actions (deleting anti-Zowaa posts and banning legitimate participants such as Ivan Kakovitch) prove that you are trying to indirectly force us to leave this forum!
When the Baathist regime wanted to Arabize Assyrians in Iraq, they didn’t make a public announcement that from this moment and on every Assyrian must identify him/herself Arab. All they did was to refuse FOOD ration to Assyrians who did not register themselves as Arabs! Do you see the similarities of your actions to that hated Baath regime?

Why don’t you just stop trying to be politically correct and ask every one who does not support your ADM to leave and stay away from this forum? You will save us all some time and wasted effort.

You are enjoying this power trip you are on, yet you are missing the most basic rule of leadership which is: Set an example with your professionalism.

I request you reinstate Mr. Kakovitch. The best way to do it is to send him a private e.mail and invite him back to this forum. Of course it’s your choice if you refuse to reconsider your decision. In that case, in my opinion every participant on this forum must BAN this forum to show unity and support for their fellow Assyrians. What you do could happen to anyone else. Actually, any person who is not on YOUR political wagon.

Shamiram



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