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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Monday, May 3 2004, 0:33:14 (CEST)
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...the boys have a new "guest editorial" policy..that means they feel a little stupid banning left and right when they`re calling for freedom and demcoracy in Iraq...so though my cousin could have posted any silly thing he wanted, since he`s as much a boy as the rest of them..they instead have this elaborate "new" ritual in which the same creeps and turds who were posting all along, can now be "invited" on to post a "guest" piece of crap...everybody is window dressing these these days...

Guest Editorial

An Ancient People?s Last Stand
The Plight of the ChaldoAssyrians in Post-Saddam Iraq

...you are Christians...nothing you can say or do proves you have any ties to the ancient people of Iraq...and certainly the fact that you betrayed Ashur for Jesus and they betrayed him for Muhammad, doesn`t shore up your idiotic claim.

Robert W. DeKelaita, Esq.

...esqire my ass...or Esther`s rather.

Posted 04-30-2004

http://www.aina.org/ge/ge00001.htm

The liberation ?honeymoon? is over.


..it`s good you start out by putting your own dick in your mouth..it was never a liberation...as you all know full well..and there was never a honeymoon..things got worse for Iraqis even before Saddam was gone...like they got worse the more the United States pushed him to do their work for them.

Celebrations in honor of the fall of Saddam Hussein are old news.

..they are more than old news...they are concocted and lying news. Like the WMDs were...

The Coalition forces in Iraq have now begun to feel the wrath of angry Shi?ite mobs and militias, dissatisfied Iraqi nationalists, and foreign fighters dedicated to protecting the Muslim world from the infidels.


...not at all...Americans are getting the wrath of fathers and mothers and soon the children too...what do you think would happen in America if anyone tried this on us? You think Americans would sit down and take it in the ass? It`s the Iraqi PEOPLE who are fighting back..maybe you wouldn`t if you saw your wife having her Assyrian Triangle probed..but some people would.

Armed and trained to fight, Coalition forces will have a chance, and may even triumph to stabilize Iraq in the future, or perhaps withdraw from Iraq, leaving it a tattered state similar to Afghanistan.

...they didn`t go there to stabilize...Israel wasn`t created to give the Jews a home...Americans went to Iraq to DE-stabilize..to make sure that country and Iran never again get to a point of being stable and telling Uncle Sam to go fuck himself for a change.


The future of Iraq and the role of the Coalition forces, therefore, remain to be seen.

...then you`re blind.

The fate of the ChaldoAssyrian Christians is a bit more foreseeable. The ChaldoAssyrians are the indigenous people of Iraq, or Mesopotamia, and are the descendants of the ancient Babylonians and Assyrians of antiquity, as well of heirs of the ancient Aramaic Christian culture and Syriac language, very much alive today in Iraq. The terms Assyrian, Chaldean, Syriac or Aramaic are often used to designate their identity, history, language, and culture at various times and settings. The political movement, however, has usually used the term Assyrian, to designate a geographic reference and specific historicity. The use of ChaldoAssyrian was the term agreed upon as a national designation in the Baghdad Conference in October of 2003, sponsored by numerous political bodies and organizations.

...we`ve heard it all before..no religious group is indigenous to Iraq...except maybe the ones that were BORN and bred there and neither Islam nor Christianity meet those requirements...if you are going to maintain that when people became Muslim they changed ethnicities, joining the ethnic group that originated their new religion..then all Christians in Iraq are not indigenous either but all belong in Israel and are Jews. The PEOPLE who are there are indigenous...and they come in any and no religions.

...The Native Americans are indigenous to America and they come in different religions..if they switch or were forced to switch they are STILL the indigenous people of North America...same with Iraq..the PEOPLE of Iraq are indigenous..no Christian religion makes some Iraqis more indigenous than others...you are a fool who thinks people too polite to laugh in our faces therefore believe this nonsense. You are indigenous to Chicago.

The ChaldoAssyrians have suffered a steady decline in numbers and geographic standing for the past several centuries, so that now only a handful of villages and towns surrounding Nineveh, the ancient capital of Assyria, are almost exclusively ChaldoAssyrian.


...you have made yourselves unwelcome..like you just did again. You were chased out of Urmia...and who took you in? The numbers of Christians in Iraq INCREASED because Muslim Assyrians took pity on you and let you in..for which you repaid them by going to work for the British army...more Sodomists and rapists...an act you still think should have earned you the gratitude of the British...it got you nothing but Simele from the Iraqis..what`s the matter...sense another "massacre" in the making?

Massacres, famine, intimidation, and political developments have reduced their numbers and forced them to migrate westward.


...not true. The turmoil was a result of war..ask Aprim, unfortunate things happen in wartime and any famine YOU suffered was felt by all...like the Sanctions starved ALL Iraqi children...Christian and Muslim.

What little has been left of these ancient people now stands as a testament to their tenacity and will to survive, heroically enduring the sad fate that history has dealt them.

...bullshit..these "brave" people couldn`t wait to go hide in the hills, remember..where a lone Jew managed to convert them and give them the courage they lacked...the descendants of these brave people, among whom I`m sure you number yourself a fine example, are now hiding in the West where they`ve re-created those villages...still quaking in fear...you NEVER dared go face any opponent...you people run and run and then run some more..then you hold your worn out shoes up to the world as proof you were CHASED away.

...history didn`t deal any sadder fate to them than their Muslim brethren have been suffering for 13 years...and at the hands of the Americans you so proudly wave...not "history". History is made by people..or in your case, made UP by people.

Without any provocation on the part of the Christian population, Shi?ite and Sunni Arabs alike had begun targeting Christians of all ages for killing, beating, robbing, and raping.

...can you believe the gall it takes to write this? Today of all days? I know there`s an urgent need to "do" something...that a big sign has gone on in these dimwitted brains that says..."Uh Oh!!! Remeber Simele???" So they`re setting the stage so that any and all reprisals, which they all richly deserve...I mean my cousin and the rest of the cowards who shouted from coffee mugs in the West that Christians in Iraq needed LIBERATING...who realize now that that MIGHT not have been such a good idea..are getting ready to blame those crazy Muslims for hating Christians for NO GOOD REASON! can the statement, "but we are REAL Christians", be far behind?

The story is a familiar one for the dwindling Christian minority. Every time an invasion or military incursion occurs, particularly by the ?Christian? West, Iraqi Christians are blamed and must pay.

...and why not? When Saudis crashed planes into New York.if that is indeed what happened...Afghanis were blamed and then Iraqis too. If the children of Iraq had to pay for Osama Bin Laden then why SHOULDN`T the Christians of Iraq pay for what the Christians of Iraq living in America YELLED and CHEERED for..unspeakable acts that Kanna is still THANKING Bush for. Do you have the creeping sense that you boys set those people back there up?...as so many of us were banned and deleted for saying? Can you NEVER take responsibility for your orgasms?

Never mind that other Muslim parties invited the American invasion or cooperated fully with it, it is the Christian Iraqi population that must pay.

...that is a lie. There were no Muslims ANYWHERE in the world begging the United States to attack a Muslim country..those were plants and stooges like you are our Christian stooges. They too had Kannas up ther ying yang waiting in the wings. But NO one had as many ex-Iraqis...all Christian, urging the Western Christians to attack and as of last week STILL praising them for doing so...your guest bullshit is an attempt to sidestep responsibillity for your share in setting up the next Simele. As you`ll remember, asshole, my grandafther, Baba Parhad, who would have spat in your face...warned assholes like you back then not to trust the British...not to rise up and show such ingratitude to the government of Iraq who`d taken us in and given your father the chance to grow up sweeping streets in Baghdad till he could move you all to America, rape his daughter and die a confirmed alcoholic...remember..your family is MY family too.

And pay they have and will continue to do so.

...you bet your sweet ass they`re gonna pay and only a little thought on your part and that of the rest of the boys would have warned you not to take advantage of those people, trapped as you AREN`T and make the same lying statements you STILL are. Do you think this latest piece of shit from you will secure their future? Do you hope Bush will read this and show some of that compassion he`s famous for and order those Christians be protected?

For the first time in recent history, Christians were ordered not to celebrate Christmas and did not do so at night.

...for the first time in history 5000 Iraqi children died each week and weren`t there to celebrate anything..and things were not too pleasant for their parents either...and Christians did this, the same ones you`re playing up to now.


When I visited Baghdad, I was informed of scores of incidents of kidnappings and threats against Iraqi Christian families which had stunned and frightened the population. It has become a common rule that Christian women, particularly young or attractive ones, should remain indoors. I sensed this feeling throughout Iraq among the ChaldoAssyrians.

...just imagine what they`ll have to endure now that everybody saw those photographs? Do you think only Christian women`s privates shouldn`t be violated? What about Christians left in Iraq who have nice butts...once the Americans leave? If those men who were sodomized can`t fly to America to sodomize American Butt...think they might kidnap and rape any Christian men and boys? Would this surprise you? Would it shock you? Why? Things happen..ask Aprim. Once again, it is you Christians who`ve taught brutality and violence and once again it is you who cry the loudest when your own lessons are turned back on you. Of course there`s fear among Christians in Iraq now..hell, I even hear Muslims are afraid.

…You think Americans care for sodomized Darkies?

Iraq?s cities are full of fear for the ChaldoAssyrians. Even under Saddam Hussein?s time, the Assyrian New Year was celebrated in the northern zone with a procession of about 30,000 people. There was none this April for fear of some sort of retaliation.

...what would you think the chances would be for a "Muslim Warriors Day" march in Manhattan any time in the near future? Muslims almost had to go to court to be able to pray at all in America...and no Muslim nation has been starving Christian American children for 13 years.

...do you think Iraqis don`t live in fear every moment right now? Are you seriously trying to get anybody`s sympathy because the Christians can`t open presents?


Churches have been continually warned not to conduct normal services and to keep their hymns quiet. Women have been warned to wear the veil and to honor Islamic codes. Priests and bishops now hide their crosses and do not dare seek the assistance of the American troops for brining on further trouble.

...well what a fucking surprise THAT is. What do you say about a "lawyer"...a guy who managed to get out of high school and even get through night Law school ACTUALLY thinking there`s something wrong when the Christians living in a country being attacked and fucked by Christians have to be "carefull"? It`s a little late now..the ones who should have been carefull and respectful and just a tad honest too were you boys..who with your boyish shenanigans have put the very people at risk you want to now appear to be worried over. You boys really MUST get out more often..believe me, the world isn`t filled with such stupid people as are your dance parties where you practice being Grat.


Women have been raped and children kidnapped. In their traditional villages around the ancient Nineveh plains, the ChaldoAssyrians are pressured to accommodate Arabs who are victimized by the newly invigorated Kurds.

...you brought every rape and reprisal on the heads and butts and cunts of the same women you`re worried about now,....you are a scoundrel and a knave and a slug...but thank god you`re proud to be one and talk so freely about your BEILEVES.


The ChaldoAssyrian must accept into their villages these Arabs, many of whom are Wahabists who detest Christians.


...Wahabists are the best friends of Bush..the president who can`t get enough. If you were that worried you should have kept your mouths shut..you want it both ways, like Esther likes it...you want to yell at the people holding your "dear" Christians hostage...and you also want to point out that they got pissed at being yelled at and did something about it...those people were ALWAYS trapped among Muslims who`ve been robbed and abused and insulted and now sodomized too by Christians..who did you think they WOULD retaliate against...TIBETANS???

Further north, Kurds have continued to confiscate Assyrian lands right under the noses of the liberating American troops. The Kurds are, after all, victims of Saddam and must be accommodated even at the expense of a dying community. The lawlessness is orchestrated by a majority against a minority, a scapegoat in every sense of the word.

...there is no lawlessness like what America and Britain just did..after this land grab and theft of an entire country...the theft of its wealth and treasures and the sodomizing of its people...you want LAW and ORDER??? And are asking whom???...the Americans to provide it?? The very ones who lied and broke every International rule of Law in order to commit this crime??? You want THEM to do the right thing now???

To add to the pains of the Christians, Islam has taken a prominent role in the new Iraq with little objection from the beleaguered Bush administration. Under siege from various forces in Iraq, some thought to be foreign; the U.S. simply uses overwhelming force and waits for the political and military results. The social and cultural results from such actions, however, are the creation of further hatred and loathing for the ChaldoAssyrians, who are unarmed and vulnerable, and if history contains any indication, ripe for massacres.

...Iraq is a Muslim country...whom did you expect would rule...a Christian minority…the Chinese? Under the Turks you Christians had it the best you EVER did..same was true for the Jews..it was these same Western Christian dogs you`re appealling to now who came there and destroyed it for everybody. Just as New Yorkers felt they could no longer trust dark people..or people who flew while looking Arab...and just as American law and Justice changed drastically because of the climate of fear and a desire for revenge..so too are Muslims capabale of abandoning their better natures and making you Christians pay for what Christians did..what part of this is so surprising to you? Is it just because this can be laid in part at your doorstep that you`re pulling out all stops? Who are you addressing...who do you expect will do a fucking thing about this? Are you also trying to scare Christians into UNTITTYING with you? Do you boys feel..in your secret talks with Peter Jassim that aren`t fit for the rest of us dummies to see...have you decided to SCARE people into UNTITTYING so that again..when the inevitable happens and Christians get it up the ass in Iraq...you can blame EACH OTHER for not having UNTITTIED together in time to "prevent this sad tragedy"...Are you THAT craven and dastardly? Are you STILL using those "poor" people you did as much as anybody to set up?

When the British were in the process of leaving Iraq and leaving their ?smallest ally,? the ChaldoAssyrians, the Iraqis sought revenge and obtained it in the form of a brutal repression of the ChaldoAssyrian people, initiated with a massacre of over 3000 unarmed men, women, children and elderly. Priests were strung from the trees and pregnant women torn apart.

...sure...don`t forget the incubators and the babies on bayonets. What`s three thousand one time when 5000 children...CHILDREN a month die from starvation for 13 years? You forgot to mention the Levies..you forgot to mention the impact on Iraqis when they saw the very Christians they`d allowed in to escape those OTHER Muslims, wearing the uniforms given them by the British..and carrying guns provided by the Britishj and receiving money from the British and who knows what promises..to train those guns on the very Iraqi people who were enraged at the Brittish for occupying their country and for having imposed a dessert sheikh as their king of all things, to pay him back for helping them in Arabia..helping them make a mish mash of the Arabs and set the region for decades of bloodshed.

...once again...you people brought this on yourselves...had the Iraqis been the kind of brutes you claim who would attack a village for NO reason..they would have refused you entry and let you die of starvation and worse..but they didn`t...and you are CHRISTIANS mind you...yet they took you all in. And you wonder?


After the massacres, and the calls for the killing of all ChaldoAssyrian males (with offers from the government for payment of bounty for the same), the ChaldoAssyrians were forced into a political and cultural isolation and repression that violated every principal of human rights laws and customs.


...no it didn`t..they weren`t forced to fuck each other for the cameras and who knows what else..it took the Christians to come BACK and do it to them some more..and you want to bring up 1931 all over again when you can`t deal with 2004???

The British attempted to whitewash the whole affair and blamed the ChaldoAssyrians for bringing on the slaughter; a classic case of `blaming the victim.? The world, sadly, took little notice. And it is not taking notice now, as the storm gathers.

...you were the victims when you were chased from Urmia...you became the guests of the Iraqis and then turned into their tormentors and made victims of THEM under pay by the British...after that you did indeed make victims of yourselves..and you know you`ve just done it again..only this time it will be worse..you know it and once again you`re playing the cowards part...you`re beginning to cry before the first lash is applied and it won`t be applied to your pretty ass or your wife`s triangular cunt..it will be used against people who wished all along you`d all shut the fuck up and stop issuing diclarations in your wars with each other.

What is to be done? The United States, the leader of the Coalition, must now look to rescue the Assyrians from a tragedy that may grow in direct proportion to its neglect.

...and there it is again folks..the "British/Americans/SOMEBODY must rescue the Christians...this is the EXACT reason Peter and the boys set these people up..this is what all the braying was about...it was to bring a massacre ON..it was because they knew they weren`t going to anything “legitimately” all along...that their only hope was PITY...let enough of us bleed and MAYBE the dear, kind and compassionate Americans, if not the Brits, will FINALLY be moved by us and our self-inflicted and idiotic Plight.

Either transfer the vulnerable ChaldoAssyrian population from cities such as Baghdad, Kirkuk, and Basra into their native sliver of land, in the Nineveh plains north of the city of Mosul, and offer them military protection there, or take them out of Iraq, offering them refugee status in the United States. Anything short of this spells doom for an ancient minority. The alarm bells have sounded and history stares us in the eyes. It is time to act.

...do you see it? Can you believe the Fuck??? get enough Christians killed and the rest of them to live in fear for their lives, THEN tell the WURLD that it had better make up an "Assyria"..nothing but a Christian Enclave like it was all along..or else..or else the Christians would suffer at the hands of the "cruel" Muslims..when it`s those same Christians who`ve been fucking over everybody there...and if this happened you can bet the Muslims would never sit still for it..but that`s okay because my cousin has visions of huge checks being sent to "Assyria" as are sent to Israel..and he sees the Americans backing up and using Christians like they use Jews..but then since Christians will be able to do the raping and sodomizing and shooting of Muslim Assyrians..all will be well with Robert`s world. Cocksucker! He should have joined the army.

Robert W DeKelaita is a graduate of the University of Chicago?s School of International Relations (MA), and Loyola University?s School of Law (JD). He is an immigration attorney, practicing in Chicago, Illinois, having successfully represented thousands of asylum seekers from various countries of the Middle East.

...he is an idiot..a pinheaded one with an inferiority complex you couldn`t drive around..mostly based on the fact that his father sodomized his sister and died and lived a drunk..he`s also pissed as hell that his last name isn`t "Parhad"..thank god.

Views and opinions expressed in guest editorials do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of AINA (Guest Editorial Policy)

...more window dressing..this could have been a post..there`s hardly anything controversial or surprising in it..or anything that flies in the face of whatever policy of the week they have at aina..I mean REALLY!!!



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