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Re: There is No Assyrian "Ethnicity"
Posted by Jeff (Guest) jeff@attoz.com - Sunday, August 29 2004, 21:24:23 (CEST)
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I just heard a fucker on the radio the other day saying that there are no "Iraqis" and that there never were...a middle eastern doctor of some sort... he said that the British tried to create a country out of warring factions who will always hate each other and look at Iraq today as proof. And they pay people like him to study Iraq's history?

The academics in Nazi Germany sat idly by and even assisted the government ...for shame.


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parhad wrote:
>Assyrian is not an ethinic designation. If you see things throught the asshole of a priest who tells you all Assyrians MUST be Christians...and further that every Muslim in Iraq is an Arab really because his religion is from Arabia...who will neglect to tell you you must be a Jew because Christianity is from Israel...if you believe that every one else in Iraq is from Arabia or Kurdistan...and all Assyrians can only be Christians..then you can say you have an ethnic identity as well...but you don'r...not if you face the truth.
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>Of course Arabs came...and Hurrians came..and Babylonians came an Persians and Greeks came etc. Lots of people came through BetNahrain and we know they mixed and became a little of everything...Arabs were no different...in that time honored tradition that saw several desert tribes move to and then conquer and then join the dominant culture ( as the Amorites who brought Hammurabi to being did)..the Arabs came and brought yet another religion with them to add to the mix...and they did NOT force everybody to convert or there wouldn't be a single fucking Jew or Christian ANYWHERE in the MidEast by now...that is clearly a lie of huge proportions.
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>When the population of Jews in Warsaw went from 500,000 to 50 in FOUR YERAS...you're talking about WIPING a religion out..and that was done by Christians and at NO time by Muslims in the MidEast or any of the lands they ruled...and no I'm not Muslim...I'm human and I THINK!
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>When Iraqis move to the Christian West and in a few generations of marrying other Christians from Iraq..even from their own villages and staying within Christian church circles in America and then produce kids who become Marines and eagerly go back to Iraq to kill...which is all these people have done in a year and half...where do you see "ethnic" anything here...except betrayal and murder of your own kind?
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>Just when did the Assyrian "etnicity" morph into an American or European one?
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>What kind of ethncity lasts long with the members of the ethnic group killing each other?
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>There is hardly any valid ethnic definition left anywhere and there will be less and less. What determines affiliation is nation...a REAL one..and then religion...and since today nations are made of everybody and every religion there can be...there is no hard and fast and soon NO meaning at all to ethnicity.
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>If we take all of Iraq to be the province of all the people there..no matter where they came from, no matter how long ago, no matter where their religions came from or how long ago...no mattet who the indigenous people were, no matter how many languages are spoken or which is dominant, no matter which religion is dominant and include them all under the national name of Iraq...then you can say there is an Iraqi "ethnicity"...what I just described is America...or Britain...or Germany or France or Canada..in other words all the MODERN Nations who are more of a duck soup than we EVER were and who've managed to unite under ONE name and national identity...and are blowing the rest of us out of the water.
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>This was what Saddam and the Shah and Nasser tried to do. And it's what our boys resisted fiercely all the way back to the Levies when they believed the Christian theiving West was going to make a PURE Assyrian nation. Today we're looking at endless warfare, foreign intervention...at Balkanization in which whatever remains of any Christian community will feel increasingly pressured to move away..for lots of reasons.
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>And guess what they'll do when they get to America? They'll blame the whole thing on Saddam for trying to make united and unified Iraq, and "Arabizing" them..where now they'll be Balkanized...The Christian Faith was safe and secure in Iraq and NO one disrespected anything Assyrian.
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>We sold it all for Christian promises from those same missionaries from Europe and emmisaries of the Pope we all cry over now, who have brought their GOVERNMENTS with them to kill us all!...without realizing that WE started the process of degeneration and divison when we left Ashur. At LEAST Islam is standing up to that Christian West that has joined the Jews in just about finishing off Christian Assyrians chances of remaining..as they enslave everyone else in what is the "New World Order Auschwitz" of the future. With more being "designed" as we speak.
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>The Christians of Iraq who live in America are going back and paying to kill their closest relatives in Iraq. This is ethnic solidarity? Soon the only place people will unite in peace will be underground in their graves...and we're more than half-way there being a dead and dying "ethnicity".
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>There's murder and there's suicide...take your pick.



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