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Re: They are your own words
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Saturday, August 28 2004, 1:07:57 (CEST)
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>..you sleazy son of a bitch..

Are you bringing mothers into this now?

...you have less than 24 hours...

>..there's a photo on our site that we tried you moral people to acknowledge as what you did to LIVING children..

This child was living, too.

...so is a fetus..that is not the point. The point is that the older child stood a good chance of causing the mother's death..you really think anyone concerned was pleased about it?

And for your information, I did acknowledge it. Ask Tiglath - who knows very well what my response was, in case you weren't paying attention.

...you may have acknowledged it...but you didn't admit your personal involvement in that murder...anyone can acknowledge something...big deal...that photo asks more of you than your attention.

>..and you come back with THIS photo!

Yes?

...why...where is the similarity?

>..If the fetus had this procedure done to it at all it was an indication that the mother's life was in danger...

Really? You know that for a fact? For your information, it is legal in this country to have an abortion at 9 months of gestation - for no reason at all except "psychological distress" to the mother - Mr. Roman soldiers raped us into Christianity! Get educated.

..that's a lie you're either going to retract or provide us with legitimate sources for such a statement...and NOT "Brothers For Life" either. It's an absurd claim to make..if that was the Law the Congress would have been skinned alive ages ago. Give us the actual legal CASE LAW that says what you claimed...educate us. Or YOU'RE going to get an education.

>...it wasn't done for the fun of it as the advanced age of the fetus shows...

No, but it's perfectly legal at any time to abort simply if the woman changes her mind and doesn't want to be a parent. That's a fact.

..no it isn't. The law allows a set period of time in which it is legal because the mother doesn't want it...past that there has to be good medical reasons for it.

>...when it could have been terminated much earlier...

And that would have made it ok? OK fine

...what you or I think is fine isn't the point...there are lots of unfine things you don't bother with. The Law and Medicine...neither of which needs to hear from you or I...has determined that abortion is legal under certain conditions and for a certain time frame...it is not YOUR decision or mine to make..it is for the mother and her doctor to decide...and in the first weeks it's entirely the mother's choice..as it should be.

- I posted a picture of one that was terminated much earlier. Feel better about this abortion? Does it look any less human to you?

...that is NOT the point. Your sensibilities or those of your church or ten guys on your block do not decide Law in this country...I happen to think a woman can do whatever she wants whenever she wants...but the Law doesn't agree. No one feels better about abortions..for you to keep saying that shows what a prevert you are..in every sense of the word.

>...what possible excuse can you have for lamenting a fetus that was either doomed or was about to risk the mother's life

The abortion doomed the baby for sure, you asshole.

...answer the question and then get cute.

..it was a medical choice between the mother's life or the babies...what would you advise your wife to do..or better yet, if she was in a coma and you had to make the decision...and they were able to hold onto you before you ran out..what would you decide..your wife or the baby?

...had such an abortion not taken place the mother might well have died...how do you think she felt...happy? Excited? Relieved? You have any idea what it must feel like to carry a baby you WANT in your body that long to be told it could kill you if allowed to remain any longer...does that make a mother happy? And she has to deal with a Christian such as you daming her as she leaves the hospital?

Tell me, would you support a law which limits abortions to cases where the mother's life is in danger?

...it isn't my decision to make and thank Ashur we have a government that so far won't allow you to make it. I think a woman has a right to have an abortion any time SHE feels like it..the Law doesn't agree with me. It says she has a RIGHT to privacy to determine whether the baby she is carrying is one she wants...for any reason UP to a set time...she has to give NO reason to ANYONE. The procedure you're misusing and lying about is reserved for rare occasions when it becomes medically necessary..what you goons have done is extrapolate from YOUR sick fantasies, that a woman and her doctor will make up a medical excuse...just because she decides, a week before giving birth, that her figure will be ruined after all and she wants to fuck again real soon...THAT's what's on your sick fuck mind.

>...while you STILL support the continued murder of LIVING and perfectly healthy children YOUR government AND religion is there killing right now and for fourteen years.

I've already established that I don't.

..yes you do. You have much more to do with that..and therefore some semblance of responsibility to act than you have anything to do with a mother seeking abortion.

It's you who've justified the slaughter of children in the name of "resources, land, water, technology and security....especially security so that civilization could advance."

...stay in one place..that was then...I support what was law and practice then..I do the same in this case today.

Your words, not mine.

>..your Christian site called the photo of the child you helped starve to death pornography...is it a turn on to you that this babe is sucking titty?

First of all, it's not my site. And it's not Christian

..it is hosted by you for a pittnace...show your support of dead Iraqi babies and tell them to stop promoting war or find another Christian. And you know damnw ell that to that site and all of you, to be "Assyrian" MEANS Christian.

- as you can see there are pagan symbols of Shamash and Ashur plastered all over it, which are non-existant on my site.

...you said yourself they are to be found on church altars..I wish you could discuss things honestly.

>...what do you say to the photos of the dead mother who dies if this procedure is NOT carried out? Or is that okay with you because it's a risk YOU never have to face?

I asked you before, and I ask you again:

Would you support a law which limits abortions to cases where the mother's life is in danger?

...I told you already...but I didn't get an answer from you.

>Are your "situational morals" depended on what's situated between your legs by any chance?.

Boring. Sigh.

...get your own material...it was relevant flippancy here because men make these decisons who have no idea what they're speaking of and who never have to face the problem personally..and that's because of what is between their legs...when you Christians have solved the problems of the children being murdered..the ones starving and homeless around the world..when you've sold the Vatican Collection and pawned your gold and diamonds to feed the world's unwanted and uncared for children...and no child is being hurt anywhere but in the womb...then we'll talk abour your CONSTANT moral interest in the welfare of children...till then it's just a prick.

>Are you actually saying the mother and her doctors ENJOY this sort of thing and there's no sound medical reason for it?

I'm actually saying that it is legal in this country to have an abortion at 9 months of gestation - for no reason at all except "psychological distress" to the mother.

..that is a lie and I'm going to prove that nine-tenths of your facts are lies...give us the unvarnished facts to support such an outrageous contention. The picture was easy for you to get...get us the Law.

The vast majority of abortions are performed not because there is any danger to the health of the mother, but simply because she changes her mind at some point and no longer wants the baby.

...it is not at "some point"...it is in the first weeks as set by law..the LAW says she can have it then for whatever reason..for the fun of it if she wants to...because a humane law recognized that she'll get it anyway and more than likely die in the ptrocess..and the Law, not being moral and steeped in sin but practical and humane and caring for the welfare of its VIABLE citizenry, decided it was wrong to force women to risk their lives AND the fetus anyway by illegal and dangerous abortions! They do not view their lonely deaths in back alleys as proper punishment for "sin"...neither do they consider one less brat on welfare all that much of a loss..as you'll see by how litle they pay to care for such children.

>...I won't remove the photo..of course not...like I won't remove the slimeball who put it there. You are one sick puppy.

And by supporting abortion under any circumstances, you are responsible for the murder of this child.

..stick to one topic...if we are talking about the older child who IS a child...then we're talking about an emergency procedure..(plastic surgery is ghastly too)...that is allowed ONLY when the mother's life is in serious risk...that is not murder...it would be murder to stand by and do nothing if the mother stands a high risk of dying..lots of things in medicine are close calls..but it is a doctior's decision to make, not god's.

...the earlier abortions are also not murder as the Law doesn't recognize the fetus as a VIABLE human..that is, outside the mother's body at that point it could not survive...this is not considered "alive" by medical science or the Law, who STILL don't need to hear from you about what they should be doing or not. Call it murder if you like...and then call what your country is doing in Iraq murder as well...and make some effort to be heard making THAT charge as well.

>And you didn't answer the question...you never do.

I did. That's why Habibi has not replied to my post.

...you know she wouldn't avoid someone like you...you are SO lame.

...but...now that you mention it...do you have a reply to me about the core beliefs, not the outer edges, of your Christanty...seeing as how you had the time to explain everyone else's religious beliefs...where is your answer? Or...?

-Paul



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