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Re: self-righteous
Posted by Qasrani (Guest) - Tuesday, July 13 2004, 17:53:19 (CEST)
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Fred,

You date yourself without even knowing it and you are shrill about everything, so it comes as no surprise to me that you would be shrill about this topic. But I grant that I found this actual post of yours very informative. Of me being here, I wanted to see if you and the people of Inside Assyria, are any more open than those at AINA. I didn't mean to insult you with the "Bizarro equivalent to AINA comment" but that's how I see it. It didn't help that I was getting harrassing emails from Peter BetBassoo warning me that I would be ousted from the AINA around the same time that you were bashing my take on feminist theory. I didn't think you would be so offended by the Bizarro comment given the fact that you dish it out in hoards. For some reason, I thought you guys were open to all ideas, not just those espoused by yourself.

..I don`t suppose the glaring contradiction of your going places to find "like-minded people" while being rather shrill about it, I might add...and then resorting to the same name-calling when you don`t get what you wanted and then bashing me for bashing you, "just like" AINA which bashes me for bashing them for bashing Kurds for bashing Arameans who bash Arabs bashing Christians bashing Muslims who bash Jews for bashing Palestinians, all of it to the accompanuiment of that old Rock and Roll classic, "Whole Lot of Bashin Going on"...dawned on you?

..Of course not...it seems you all have better things to do and have no time to waste..we all know that because you all tell each other several times...

~I do have better things to do than to sit and rehash the same conversation over and over using different wording. Did you notice that we were all repeating ourselves? Why would anyone bother with that? I'm not trying to convince you of my perception. I'm not a self-hating, riding-on-the-coat-tails sort of woman. You tried to niche me that way. As soon as someone does that (compartmentalize), you should realize that the discussion is over before it began because then it is a battle of wills. One which you will win every time because I don't take the bait.

...You come from a world where people are there because of their abilities...

~Fred being facetious. Very funny. Btw, on your humor, I almost keeled over laughing with your "Quryaqos Ruhktapalitous." I don't know if I spelled it right. But really, I just like reading some of your comments because some are hilarious. Others are incoherent rants, but sometimes it only takes one word... And I start tearing up with laughter.

But to answer that comment head-on--> I know that I'm privileged. I know how I got where I'm at and a whole lot had to do with WHEN I WAS BORN. Go figure... Being born after suffrage, after the term "women's lib" fell well out of use. My point was simple. The fight for the disenfranchised is bigger than just women. I see it in a wider lense. It's every where. I can get on Assyrian forums and write with the name "Qasrani," which is gender neutral, and people still think I'm a guy. That's narrowness. It's been, what?, over 8 years that I post in different forums with the same name and every one knows I'm a woman and there's still some Assyrian fart who can't get it through their thick skull that there are Assyrian women out there that can speak about history and politics and the region with them. And then there are the well-meaning guys that fall prey to the other end of the ignorance and are "impressed" that there is a woman that can talk on such things. Do you seriously think that I get by with the sort of rose-colored impression that you are claiming me to have? Do you really think that ANY ethnic woman can get anywhere being complacent? I am not shrill. You can have my shrillness. I don't want it. I like the fact that you have taken on this word and post it all over your messages.

That was all. In this world...here on the ground..it`s a tough world...a world that knocks people over and drags them around the block regularly...I have indeed been rough on people in four years..but there`s a plus side to that...I`m not bothered by "friends", I have no need to consider how "popular" or "well-liked" I am...I`ve pissed everyone off I can think of...and deliberately so...you have your world I have mine..

~It IS a tough world. It's hard on EVERYBODY... even the whities, perhaps not in the same way as the darkies. And you are ROUGH and if you can live without friends, I commend you. I personally can't, they are the seasoning to my life, the yummy thick gravy to my bland potatoes. But I don't know if you are referring to the people in online forums, in your personal life or all of the above.

...and in mine I wanted to find people who can tell the difference between a noble idea expressed by a slob...verses a sloppy idea presented by a noble-sounding person...

~Did you come up with this or is this you quoting someone? This is the sort of golden nugget that I search for when I read your messages. Assyrians definitely go for the latter... But it's the same with all of society...it's lemming culture. Life's hard so say things sweetly.

You don't make me shrill. Keep in mind that when you never change your tone, shrill becomes normal. The shock value wears off and then you have to vary it. Kind of like torture...You always have to rev up the amps because the object of the torture can go numb. But you have to be careful that you don't increase too much lest you kill them and lose everything. Even torture has a balance to it...

Qasrani



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