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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Thursday, July 15 2004, 17:03:49 (CEST)
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this post is put at beth by someone who tells it like it is...only can`t put his name to his "convictions". These people are smearers and slanderers and they know enough to hide in "fear". They never stopped shaking and quaking in those villages of their heads....



What makes a racist?

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Written by The Hypocracy Meter on 15 Jul 2004 12:44:45:

Here is the ultimate of hypocracy from someone who is always crying that Assyrians are racist. Here is an exerpt from a post I read yesterday from http://www.insideassyria.com/rkvsf2/wwwboard/msgs/Re_Is_she_related-9Dko.html

..never said they were racists...there is only one Race..the Human one. Assyrians are certainly bigoted and filled with religious hatreds, like anyone else...in fact you people are typical Christians...why does that upset you?

"he never again allowed a single Assyrian to darken his dorrway, far prefering Muslims and anyone else...passing on the same anger to my father who used to make Assyrians coming to Kuwait to beg favors as he was the personal doctor to the Emir of Kuwait to be, Sheikh Sabah...making them stand outside in the sun in the garden when they would plead their case and ask favors...and when my mother railed against at this treatment of dear "Assyrians", he replied..."if you would be happy in Life never allow one of them in your house".

...yes but you forgot to say WHY. Just as you allow yourselves to ignore 27,000 murdered Assyrian children because Christians killed them and they are of no "use"...and further their presence as dead children embarrasses your claims to helping Iraq and loving ALL your dead martyrs...and as you justify every crime you committed against the Iraqis who took us in and say you have SUFFERED and therefore you can betray and kill...so too did my father`s family suffer from boys like you...who went behind my grandfatherĒs back to the Iraqi officials, who were already pissed that this Christian doctor was so popular with Muslims...and told them my grandfather wasn`t really a doctor, giving the equally slimey and envious Muslims the excuse they needed to revoke his license...that is the incident that made my father`s family...in which there were many brilliant doctors and scientists to come...realize that the envy and jealousy of these uneducated louts, such as yourself...could lead to even so outrageous an act as costing the Assyrian refugees the ONE Assyrian doctor they had in those camps...

...Now, why didn`t you see fit to give the entire picture...to say what CAUSED something? You wouldn`t be doing that with these lying accounts of what happened in Simele, would you? Why wouldn`t you at least condemn what those Assyrian louts, such as yourself, did to the man AND his family AND our refugees who needed a doctor badly? Why not be fair and evenhanded?

This was written by a supposed self proclaimed advocate against racism.

..the doctrine of Racism is indeed abhorent..but it is mistaken, there is only one Race...what we protest against is smearing all people by the BEHAVIOR of a few and calling that a "Racial" characteristic. I`ve always felt my family went too far, that there are good Assyrians of course...but what happened to them was so outrageous that they decided to never allow it to come close to happening again. By the way, my father helped every Assyrian who came asking...he just knew that sooner or later, if he befriended any of them, one or three of them would go to someone and lie about him because they`d get jealous over some supposed slight or other..this we are famous for. Jackie couldn`t get me to shag her..instead of just staying angry at me..she set about ruining my reputation by emailing lies around the country...things so outrageous such as I`d come to her door at night pleading for money to feed my children and she gave me groceries off her shelf...in a brown paper bag!

...We have a mean streak in us a mile wide and sooner or later all of us have been turned on...as we can see happening on these forums...and while I can drag you over here and have at you anyway..you remain terrified to step out and be free...that`s what makes you all so smelly and dangerous too..but not seriously so..it`s very easy to get rid of you..you take yourselves away, you make yourselves anonymouse and nonentities..you make yourselves insignificant and when an Assyrian walks by who isn`t anonymouse or afraid, you think he does it on PURPOSE to make you look and feel bad..and that`s why you have no scientiets or culture or writers..none who want to associate with your "community"..because you will hate them for "putting you down"...and that`s what my father was expressing...especially in the case of those Assyrians, like Jackie`s father who probably stood in our yard too...the ones who snuck into Kuwait and were looking for work and a way to remain in the country were already half-way there to thinking they had grounds to resent a successful Assyrian...blaming him for "Islamicizing" simply because he was good at what he did and moved ahead..sooner or later they would feel resentment..feel he could have done MORE...feel he was favoring his Muslim friends..feel they were slighted...and of course they`d forget what he`d just done for them but focus instead on their hurt feelings and sense of inadequacy because my father "forced" them to be orderlies at the hospital when they should have been chief surgeon, like that Muslim "scum" my father went riding with in company with the Emir`s family...why hadn`t he invited THEM too..what`s the matter...did he like Muslim Kuwaitis and Palestinian doctors and officlas MORE than a Christian?

...We all know the drill. It wasn`t my father or grandfather who ever betrayed those Assyrians...my father never wanted to be a doctor but an aeronautical engineer instead and secretly switched his field of study in universioty..when his father found out he went to the Dean and forced my father back into medicine...he was concerned that Assyrians have their own hospital...so concerned that four of his five sons became doctors...but the man himself died of the strain and a broken heart from having to go repeat his medical degree...because of the jealousy of Assyrian nitwits such as yourself....maybe it was an overreaction...but what of the people, such as yourself, who do these sorts of things...why no mention of them?

Maybe he is realizing what breeds his racism and hatred for Assyrians and that is the first step to realizing and eliminating your own racism and hate.

...a man who works for years as a doctor in the summer heat of Mosul and gets his medical degree all over again so he can continue serving his people, doesn`t hate Assyrians..he despises what you people do to US. And his son who becomes the head of the department of health in a Muslim country also doesn`t hate Assyrians when he gets them jobs...but will not allow them access to his house or family...and his son doesn`t hate Assyrians when he works for years using the money he earns selling sculpture to build the first Assyrian Monument anywhere in the world in 2500 years...we just don`t like YOU, hiding behind our name while you do your Christian dirt...is all.


I hope that I am wrong but my feeling is that it sounds more like bragging about one of the most racist things I have ever heard done to anyone. How sadistic to make a sick person beg for medical help which by the way is against this MEDICAL DOCTOR's "hypocratic" oath to help all sick.


...you are severaly challenged..the lack of undertanding of the written or spoken word you people evince is frightening..and that you run with what you THINK you know even more so. No one said anyone made an Assyrian BEG for medical help. These Assyrians had come to Kuwait as visitors and wanted desperately to find work there...and the only way they could stay and bring their families was if someone offered them a job. Not knowing anyone except of a Dr. Luther...these Assyrians found our house and asked for help finding work..and my father never turned a one of them away. But he would not allow them access to his private life...not let them in to see the furniture, the carpets...to assume that because they were also Assyrian they could get their hands all over us...and later make their lies credible by saying, "he took us inside so we KNOW what we are saying". No Assyrian is automatically fit for human consumption just because he is Assyrian, or from your postal zone...people usually have strangers stand outside...but in this case especially so.

...The people didn`t come seeking medical help at all...he did that often enough too....they came for work and he helped tham as much as he could..he just didn`t want to allow them into his private life...would you let me in your house?

What kind of racism might this possibly this breed in his son, if he had no compassion for the vunerable sick and further degraded them by making them beg for medical help, when he said he would never again allow an Assyrian to enter his doctor's office. Denying that medical help is the epitomy of racism in my opinion.

...it wasn`t his doctor`s office...and my grandfather was the ONLY Assyrian doctor our people had who further insisted that his sons must serve our people by becoming doctors as well...it was Assyrians who can`t read or write or understand much who, out of envy and jealousy, told Iraqi officlas, angered by Dr. Baba`s popularity already, what they wanted to hear..those Assyrians COST our people, desperately in need of a doctor, their ONE Assyrian doctor..it was never my grandfather`s intention to not serve them...he would take chickens and eggs and bread in payment because he knew as refugees they had nothing else to pay him with...and he could have retired when he was turned in by Assyrians who lied and said he had no medical degree, when his records had all been destroyed during the war...instead he got his degree ALL OVER AGAIN...so he coiuld continue in the few years left to him, to take their chickens and cakes in payment for his services...what part of this didn`t you understand...or are you merely doing what you do when report on Simele...lying and making up what you need to meet your Christian agenda?

...My father also never denied medical treatment to anyone, least of all Assyrians...where did you find that in what I wrote? because you can`t read or undersdtand, or have a Christian agenda to slander and smear all Assyrians..doesn`t mean my father did what you claim he did...which I never mentioned once. Must you be so obvious?

That is racist to hate and deny a basic human right to ALL of a certain ethnicity because someone in your family once had a problem with someone of that same ethnicity.

...what is it when Assyrians take steps, spread lies that result in the one Assyrian doctor those refugees had, who was himself a refugee...being barred from serving Assyrians? What about THOSE sick Assyrians who were truly denied his services? Where did I even hint that my father or grandfather denied anyone medical services based on anything? If my father hated Asyrians so he would have helped none of them...gotten none of them jobs. When my father died under mysterious conditions and the British doctor-agent insisted his funeral had to happen in 24 hours, no open casket and refused my mother`s request to have his body flown to Iraq, BetNahrain, if you will...where,as a decorated war hero he would have recveived a state funeral with honors..as had happened with another Iraqi doctor who`d died in Kuwait the previous year...and he wouldn`t even allow my father`s body to be dressed in anything but the sheet they wrapped him...and at that had him buried in what was described to her as a "new cemetary" where three years later she found no gravemarker but instead was told he was buried among the poor under a sign which merely read "1958"....when his body was to be taken to this "new cemetary" where his grave was to be the first...through word of mouth hundreds and then thousands of Kuwaitis and friends and colleagues joined the procession, much to the fury of Dr Perry who, like you, wanted to bury my father quickly and with no attention paid...and in a few days he had my mother committed to an asylum because she started asking questions.

...My father and grandfather were well known and loved and respected by many people, Assyrians included...but not by Christians such as you...and they felt the same way about you and you are NO "race". They still would have taken your chickens and goats in payment and found you work...they just werenĒt about to make friends of you just because you were "Assyrian" and from their bitter experience ESPECIALLY not when you presumed to worm your way into their private lives based on your "ethnicity" alone.

...These are the sorts of Assyrians you people hate because they give the lie to your claims that you can be "somebody" merely by being born "Assyrian" or, as in your case and that of the boys, tagging that name onto your Jew religion and thinking that from that moment on you never have to join the human race..because Ashurbanipal was great and YOU are his offspring.


Maybe the person posting this will realize the hipocracy for him to keep calling people racist for simply being proud to be Assyrian, that is if you are Christian which he loaths.

...it is you people who loathe Muslims enough to kill them and keep silent when Assyrians are killed by Christians, whom you ignore, it is you who make distinctions based on who got killed by whom between those Assyrians you "honor" and those you never heard of, including 27,000 Assyriajn children killed by YOUR Christian Masters...I have Christian friends and I wouldnĒt kill anyone over their religion..itĒs too silly a thing to kill a cat over...but children? What of the 27,000 Assyrian children your Christians have killed. Where are they? Are they in your heart...or like eveything else you "feel strongly", only in your mouth?

...Do you think witholding medical care and medicine and pain killers and tires for ambulances and clean water to wash the Assyrian childrenĒs vomit away and beds for hospitals so they wouldnĒt have to die on the floor...do you think it was a bad thing to impose Sanctions the American officials ADDMITTED would have the effect of killing 5000 Iraqi children a month for 13 years? Or donĒt ALL Assyrians count with you? Is this what "proud" Assyrians support...or is this what Christian scum are willing to let slide in their agenda to get back at Islam for the sake of their churches?

Yet to me it appears as if he tells this story as if it was a blight on the Assyrians rather than despicable racism becuase a couple did something that "made" his father racist.

...is it a badge of honor that Assyrians cost our refugees living in camps and unsanitary conditions the only doctor they had? Is it a minor thing that affected no one else? If there was any fault on my grandfather and fatherĒs side, why do you fail to mention what was DONE to them to make them feel this way and to hurt the rest of our people...as you never tire of explaining that you were FORCED to be treacherous and murderous by "things" done to you?

...My father was no racist..he just knew better than to let you into his house..but he would have gotten you a job because then you might afford an education for your children so stupidity and ignorance wouldnĒt get passed down in your family like a thing of pride you seem to revel in.

This is someone that complains about Americans and Assyrians with accusations that I don't believe of every imagined form of racism by everyone on every kind of Arab and Muslim, but this he exaults as justified. HYPOCRACY!!!!!!

...I donĒt think you know how to read...I donĒt think you know the meaning of words...I think you read a Syriac manuscript...believed every lying thing your clergy told you and figured with god on your side you never had to wash again.

...I think you are afraid...I think the world scares you..I think you know you are terribly ill equipped to deal in it except in some lower capacity which galls the sense of entitlement your church put in you about being Assyrian when you are clearly no such thing..and I think you especially hate those Assyrians who make you "look bad" by so outstripping any "achievements" you could ever make that would justify your wild=assed claims to being DIRECT descendants of Ashurbanipal...and I think we were right to help you improve your lot in life...but not allow you into our homes.

Would you invite me into your house? I canĒt even get onto your forums and answer you directly. Can I expect an invitation soon? You arenĒt a racist..are you?



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