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Re: ChalDEEN nationalism
Posted by Maggie (Guest) - Monday, July 25 2005, 18:21:32 (CEST)
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Beezlebub wrote:


"...sorry. The word Mesopotamia MEANS between...meso...rivers, potamie...Between The Rivers...BetNahrain...like it says in our name...Hanna also tried once to convince me that Between the Two Rivers could have been ANY two rivers...like, how about the ones that ran through his town in Turkey...

...In the ancient times there was no Arabia..and as T.E. Lawrence points out in his marvelous book, "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"...not even by 1917 could the British convince the tribes that they were ARABS and part of a large land mass called Arabia...they had no concept of such a thing...Arabs are from Arabia...those born in Jordan are NOT Arabs...neither are Muslims from Iraq or Egypt"

The first written attestation of the ethnonym "Arab" occurs in an Assyrian inscription of 853 BC, where Shalmaneser III lists a King Gindibu of mâtu arbâi (Arab land) as among the people he defeated at the Battle of Karkar. Some of the names given in these texts are Aramaic, while others are the first attestations of Proto-Arabic dialects Its earliest attested use referring to the southern "Qahtanite" Arabs is much later.

Etymology
The term "Arab" or "Arabian" (and cognates in other languages) has been used to translate several different but similar sounding words in ancient and classical texts which do not necessarily have the same meaning or origin. The etymology of the term is of course closely linked to that of the place name "Arabia".
Although the term mâtu arbâi describing Gindibu in Assyrian texts is conventionally translated of Arab land, nothing is known with certainty about the exact location or extent of the land being referred to, nor what literal meaning the name had. In fact several different ethnonyms are found in Assyrian texts that are conventionally translated "Arab": Arabi, Arubu, Aribi and Urbi. The presence of the Proto-Arabic names amongst those qualified by the terms arguably justifies the translation "Arab" although it is not certain if they all in fact represent the same group.

Another explanation derives the word from an old Semitic stem `.R.B., with a metathetical alternative `.B.R., both meaning travelling around the land, that is, nomad.

Most of the Middle East is now formed by conventionally called "Arab countries", recently invented by the British and French rulers after having defeated and dismembered the Ottoman Empire.

Strabo: Geography, Book XVI, Chap. iv, 1-4, 18-19, 21-26, c. 22 CE
Book XVI.iv.1: Arabia commences on the side of Babylonia with Maecene [modern Kuwait]. In front of this district, on one side lies the desert of the Arabians, on the other are the marshes opposite to the Chaldeans, formed by the overflowing of the Euphrates, and in another direction is the Sea of Persia.
The first people, next after the Assyyrians and Jews, who occupy this country are husbandmen. These people are succeeded by a barren and sandy tract, producing a few palms, the acanthus, and tamarisk; water is obtained by digging [wells] as in Gedrosia. It is inhabited by Arabian Scenitae, who breed camels [in the area just to the west of the Euphrates].



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