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Re: In the honour of Habib Mousa
Posted by Dalale (Guest) - Thursday, July 28 2005, 21:44:31 (CEST)
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Dear Dalale,
....Dear Atra

My answer was in relation to what you had posted, I don't know what the convention has to do with me since I'm not involved in it, and what's this "you and us" bit???

......... Yes I’m not involved with it either....and my children’s, children’s children’s, children… I have a feeling wont be involved in it either. It seems to me that there have been two groups formed.. Let us hope that there are enough good people in both, so that there won’t be a catastrophe in the Northern Regions.

However,let me clarify something for you,we all know that the Assyrian National Convention was started following the 1933 massacres and it was started by few Assyrians who were in their majority western Assyrians but they never called themselves "Suryoyeh" but rather they called themselves Assyrians.

......... Yes.....these fellas could learn something from the men of Alqosh who at one point in history went and fought for, and helped out their fellow Assyrian brethren in the Hakkari mountains in Jeelo.... Ahh he we repay them….creating coalitions with people they label "enemies" not us.....all humans are our friends ...


One of them was the late Dr David Perley an Assyrian whose family had fled to the United States following the Genocide of 1915 that is the Saypa Genocide.

.............. Yes...like those who do not need to flee now if there is a catastrophe in Tur Abdin..........now a days ...all they have to do is press a button.

The other thing is that some 35 years ago when the late Archbishop of the then called Syrian Orthodox Church Mar Eshoo Samuel who was responsible for all the United Stated decided to start a counter convention because many of the youth who had grown up in the States at the time were the descendants of the western Assyrians who had as I mentioned come from Tur Abdin,Kharput and other areas in what's today Turkey.Those youth attended the Assyrian National Convention and he didn't like that being of the thought that his flock shouldn't attend an Assyrian convention because in his mind they were "Aramaeans" which they didn't care for.This other convention is held till today but it's known as the youth convention.

............. Yes.....conventions... their hobby. The youth........much brighter people.

Another info. there's a Church which was built in Teanack New Jersey by the first eastern and western Assyrians who had fled during and after WWI massacres and in their majority were from what's today Turkey and Iran. The Church was named St Mary's Assyrian Orthodox Church even though this Church followed the jurisdiction of the then known as the Syrian Orthodox Church,few years back because of the spite that some Bishops in that Church hold for any thing that is Assyrian they changed the name of the Church from Syrian to Syriac claiming that they were mistaken for Syrian Arabs,and in the process they also changed the name of St Mary's Assyrian Orthodox Church to Syriac even though that Church has been standing there for so many years with its name.

..........Ya, and now the leader of the Syriac speaking people has guaranteed himself a post in their new secret government...or so my minds eye tells me.

It's a very well known fact and many of my fellow western Assyrians admit it and that is the Assyrian traditions were kept by the eastern Assyrians.Today there are amongst the new generation of the western Assyrians those who are singing in both dialects but it wasn't always that there were western Assyrian singers.Again let me remind you that the western Assyrian music prospered in its beginnings through the efforts of eastern Assyrian singers specially those from Syria such as Juliana Jendo and Aziz Saliba who sing both dialects and if Aziz Saliba isn't asked if he's an eastern or western Assyrian no one knows the difference.Talal Greish is from the Chaldean rite and he sings in the eastern dialect so where is the problem???

...... Yes...Talal..... I'm sure the Mafia was busy with Albert Mansour....hey...but they even pulled the plug on him when he started to sing Arabic! Ahhh..fate...

Lastly this year's convention chairperson is Elias Hanna and he's one of those western Assyrians who are doing a great job.Those western Assyrians who believe in their nationality have no problem whether they listen to eastern or western music because it's all one to them and same goes for eastern Assyrians.

.... Yes, and I always thought you a brilliant man!



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