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Re: The Southern Sudanese and the Berber
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Friday, March 11 2005, 15:12:06 (CET)
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Wonderer wrote:
>Pancho,
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>You keep on mentioning that you don't care about religions yet you take aim at one and the other you glorify and then you want to make it sound as if you're neutral!!!

...I said...there isn`t a tinker`s damn between any of them...but as Christianity had the Jews by the throat only recently and now has set its sights on Muslims..they get the greater share of my concern...we have to begin to figure out why you guys are the bloodiest beasts to ever roam the earth...until you people tried to solve YOUR problem with the Jews...neither Jews nor Muslims were doing anything to anybody...in the First World War it was Christianity that attacked Islam..it was the Western Christian Powers who attacked a muslim nation that had done nothing to it, but have oil..and to put a fine cover to your crimes, you agitated within Turkey till Muslims became suspicious of their Christian neighbors..and then you claimed to have a m,andate to "save those Christians"..and then as now you caused the death of more Christians than anyone in that country ever dreamed of causing..it`s your oldest trick.

After that war you had the next one in which Christian killed Christian some more and you finally found the right guy to attempt to rid you all of the "killers of Christ"...and still Islam did nothing to any Christian country..then after that war, you decided to further solve your Jewish problem by relocating them to >Palestine and stealing a country for them...thereby setting Muslim against Jew...when they had always been protectors and friends...and still the Muslims did nothing...except Nasser tried to form a united front..like the united Christian front that was facing him...and he blocked the Brits from using the Suez Canal..which he had every legal right to do..for which the Brits bombed the people of Port Said...killing women and children...that was a CHRISTIAN raid. Islam continued to take and take until just rceently..when a few desperate and driven nearly mad people fought back..and that was JUST what you Christians were waiting for...NOW you had the final excuse you needed.."these people were VIOLENT..their RELIGION made them that way"..and the rest..the awful crimes committed once again by Christians..will haunt this planet for a long time.
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>Why is it that Christianity is making you so fearful that you would attack it?
>For real it has become an old thing to talk about such things as cannabilism, because you keep on repeating things that muslims say.

..it is not old at all. It has been avoided and then brushed aside as just too silly to discuss...but it is not. It is crucial and central to the question of what makes you people so bloody. When you cleared Europe of all Jews and Muslims...you turned on each other for trivilaities..and the murder you committed..the rape of women and carving up of babies..for JESUS..is just too brutal and unbelieveable a story..so you don`t talk about it..it seems your history is off limits because you say it is.

..I`m not afraid of Christianity...I find it despicable...I despise the way you people attach yourselves to human decency and a hundred pagan rituals and beliefs as a cover for your crimes. I choose to focus on your crimes...never mind how much you give to charity..Pablo Escobar did the same thing and so do most Mafia Dons. I didn`t go through the Christian laundromat as a kid...I still have a mind. And thanks to this latest mindless Christianfest...there`s going to be a backlash..and we`ll take a closer look at what makes Christianity tick and boom and bang and crash and whump and mow down all that stands in its way that`s decent and gentle and kind.
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>By the way in the Arabian Peninsula at the time of Mohammad there were no roman christians,but there were arab tribes who had certain beliefs within Christianity like the Abyonians of whom was Waraqa bib Nawfal,who was the Bishop of Mecca and he was of the Qoraysh tribe,and he was the one who married Mohammad to his first wife Khadija.

..no one said there were any Romans there...that`s because Muhammad`s army went OUT to meet them and not only kept them from coming to Arabia but threw the fuckers out of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia..and much later threw them out of Asia altogether. The Mongol Invasion ruined the glory of Islam and created the ideal conditions for a period of soul searching and the rise of the conservative factions who then..as now in Christianity, sought to make hay while their sun shone by claiming the Mongols were sent "by god" to punich Islam for having staryed from the true and ignmorant path...that they had been punished for creating the most magnificent civilization that world and time had ever seen...same old story..same old busybodies...it will take Islam some time to rise again.

There were also Jews in Meccan and Ethiopians whose King Al Najashi shielded the muslims when they were chased out of Mecca in the beginnig by their own arab tribes who were pagans and didn't believe in the new religion.So Mohammad didn't mean the roman christians,he meant no other religion period and all that entailed to execute that phrase was done.


..the Muslims were more Jew than the Christians..more Old Testicle than New...they looked and acted very much like the Patriarchs of old...they had that religious fervor that led Jews to murder their own fellows, also for god..and they were no different from the Christians who also murdered EVEYBODY..and then set to work on each other..the whole thing is a dismal crock...all of it.

The largest three arab tribes who converted to christianity at the time were al Manathera,al Ghasasena and Bani Taghleb,all those were later on forced into Islam and those who refused were treated badly,had to pay jizya and were dhemmis and even when they walked in the street they had to walk to the left and they would be told,"to the left pig",not forgetting other atrocities.

..like I said...church history is no history. I still find it odd that your church should have so much detailed information on who converted, freely and gleefully...and how badly they were treated, what was said to them as they walked down a street and how much tax they paid etc...while it has nothing to say about how it came to be the only religion allowed in an entire HEMISPHERE. The day you guys deal with your history AS history..and not as a promotional brochure..is the day you might be believed in these other, more pleasant and pleasing, claims.
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>If what you're spreading about christianity isn't hatred then what is it ?

..what did you spread about Jews? Was that love? I advocate killing no one for any reason..not their religion certainly...I advocate looking at things clearly..and if they stink, it`s their doing..not mine. Christianity is the bloodiest religion the world has ever seen...there is no way you people impressed an entire Hemisphere..and you didn`t...we have third-person accounts and recent evidence of just how people were "brought" to Christ..and it ain`t pretty. This is a record for brutality and lies unmatched anywhere...certainly never even approached by Islam.
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>All religions have flaws and have a bad history attached to them but don't tell me that one is the worst which isn't true.

..like I said..while you are critical of what Islam did in Tomoor..or in some island somewhere..you overlook how it could be that an entire hemisphere could be turned into Christians...that`s half the world! People who had their own advanced and dear religious beliefs they fought and died to preserve.and they DID and they were killed... their children raised in missionary schools..foprbidden their own languages and customs..why? Why try to wipe out their memories if not to clear away the awful truth of what they had and how they came to be "converted"?
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>"those are your impositions..according to you people there is nothing to get upset about..power to you".
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>>>>Your above statement is an imposition in itself.May the power be with you trying to convince yourself and others that Christianity is all bad and monstrous and other religions aren't.

..I said...all three sisters from hell suck. There are better ways of raising decent people...that isn`t the reason those religions exist..they are means of controlling people..that`s all.
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>>>> Who are those people that you keep on mentioning?I speak for myself and no one else.I didn't impose the word hatred on you,from what I see in your writings it is hatred,what is it then kindness ?

...As Ghandi said..."I love your Jesus..I hate your Christianity".
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>"that again...you all hope desperately that weŽll ban you...so you can claim weŽre just like you. In fact...youŽll soon change modes and start TRYING to get banned..in fact itŽs probably just you all over again. We donŽt ban people..they ban themselves..they take themselves away when their tricks donŽt work".
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>>>> Not really this is my method,but I'm not sure what you will do? I detest injustice,and if you were fair in your statements I wouldn't have questioned them but you're un fair and that's why I question your motives.

...go suck an egg. You`re simply one side of the scam. There have never been a shortage of innocent and wide eyed Christian hucksters sent in top sound out the waters...sure, you`re a nice and decent guy blah blah blah...here to make me look rabid by contrast...but we know these little gasmes well. You are atypical and a liar at that. The overwhelming turth about yourr eligion can`t be disguised by you "aw sghucks" approach. You are one branch and division..the "Nice Division" of a brutal religion...you don`t think the Church got where it is by being dumb do you?

...You appear to be fair and nice and super nice and decent...good for you. We aren`t talking about nice people..we`re talking about Christianity Incorporated. The Jesuits were famous for this game..they were well educated...bright and logical..almost. When push came to shove, they too murdered people..and if your approach doesn`t work..you`ll be damning people left and right yourself soon.

...Stay good and calm and fair and reasonable..I don`t recall asking for you approval. I`m doing what I do...you do what you do.
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>If you're an Assyrian how come you're not promoting Assyrianism,the way you know it?Instead you call this Forum Inside Assyria but there's nothing about Assyria in it

..it`s the inside truth..the awful secret that Christianity was never a part of Assyria and no one in his or her right mind converted away from Ashur to Jesus..that is slander and a lie to boot. All the people of BetNahrain are descended from the ancient Mesopotamians..all of them. If there is such a thing as a Christian Assyrian then there are far more Muslim Assyrians. The first thing we need to do is get you Christians out of our hair...and this time perhaps and FINALLY ask all of them to leave..no matter how much they want to stay and how much Islam accomodates them..they will always be the Achilles Heel through which the West can be "nice" and come save them..and steal more oil and wealth...as they started out to do in the First World War and have been doing since.

I do my thing...you do yours.



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