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Posted by beezelbub (Guest) - Monday, July 25 2005, 15:08:00 (CEST)
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enki wrote:
>beezelbub wrote:
>>...the easiest thing to back up is the claim that Christians have been the bloodiest people the world has ever known...now, say that about the Assyrians and I'll be all over you...even faster if you make that claim where I can get at you...that's because this is true about Christians but false about the ancient Assyrians...and as an Assyrian I'll go anywhere to defend my Heritage...and there's yet another glaring difference between a Christian boy and an Assyrian...sigh.
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>*** OK u people seem to be obsessed with showing the bad side of the christians which i have nothing against but i just think u guys have overdone it.


...Look, all people have bad in them...okay? That goes for nations as well. But I happen to walk onto a scene where A Christian is starving the babies of Mulims to death and saying it's okay to do. I have no doubt the Muslim parents of those children have done some "bad" thinhs in their lives...as I have no doubt the Christians doing the starving have done good things...but the situation I'm confronted with is not theoretical nor an abstraction...there is a real, live injustice and horros being committed in front of me...and I can plainly see that the Iraqi children are not to blame...and neither are their parents...all I'm doing is dealing with what I see in front of me for the last 17 years...I need to understand how it can be that anyone would starve to death someone else's child...and since I hear those responsible praise their Lord while they do it..I am naturally compelled to ask how it can be...the focus right now is on Christians and their crimes and the bloody religion that has made them the most bloody people in history...the reason they are the focu is because THEY started this and maintain and it is they who have introduced the most barbaric, terrifying elements.

I just gave my thoughts about ur statement which i believed to fairly accurate and then everyone comes along and brings in all the evil of the christians and how bad the jews were. Get over it, I dont care about what relegion people follow. People are free to choose their relegion and wat they believe in and if its christianity, islam, hinduism, budahism... or watever relegion its their choice.

...they are free, certainly...but where Christians are concerned, this freedom was not extended to other Christians..let alone half the world...people in the New World from Pole to Pole were NOT allowed to keep their religion...it is only now that your church allows "freedom" of religion...it becomes everyone else's buisness when Christians say they have a duty to their god to spread their religion around the world...Muslims have not these things...they did 1300 years ago...but then the Christians were doing the same back then...Muslims have attacked no countru because of its religion...Christians have SAID that Islam is evil, as they said Judaism was Evil...THEY have used this pretext as a justification for committing the most horrific crimes...most recently against six million innocent Jews...and now against hundreds of thousands of Muslims BABIES!

..you can't have it both ways...you can't have one Christian team yap about love and forgiveness and then bring on your Christian Storm Troopers.

Watch the movie Kingdom of Heaven it clearly shows that it is not the relegion that makes a person good or bad or makes someone kill another person but its the person that makes the choice and only uses relegion to justify his/her actions.

...I don't get my ideas from movies...especially not historical epics. I don't believe a word in the bible either.

I think u can manipulate the teaching of almost all relegions to get wat u want.

..of course...but then let's look at who did the manipulating to justify the recent Holocaust...and who has done the manipulating to start this one...they are the same people and for the sake of this planet we have to understand what makes them so damn bloody. The Jews didn't do anything to deserve being treated like that...neither did the Palestinians...neither did the Iraqis...we are faced with a RELIGION that has given itself permission to attack anyone they want to...regardless of what the people attacked actually do...as it mattered not at all that Saudis were responsible for 9/11...but they were never attacked, instead innocent Iraqis were, their children first and foremost...this is criminal negligence and total indifference to justice, proportion and human suffering on such a grand scale that we are FORCED to seek out its causes and remove its idiotic justifications for behaving in so barbarous a manner....all religions are NOT the same.



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