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America aghast at torture in Iraq....
Posted by beezelbub (Guest) - Saturday, November 19 2005, 4:51:45 (CET)
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...while seeking approval for torture in Guantanamo and more secret facilities across Europe? Anyone want to use the dirty "H" word?

It seems our torture chambers, the ones brought to us by Christian Freedom...are superior to those run by evil people. This is the kind of bind you get into when you run things according to your personal morals..and all the more reason to simply obey the law.

When convicted of a crime before a judge you can't say your morals made you break the law...but stand before your god and I do mean YOUR god..and you can tell him you broke the law for HIM...trouble is, being "moral" allows you to break our laws way too many times to suit most of us.

What is America doing tsch tsching the Iraqis for THEIR torture chambers while at the same time our president is asking for an exemption so WE can torture?

Torture gets you no useful information...all of us know that. if someone came to torture me I'd make up anything I thought he wanted to hear...might as well...what makes me think the guy will ever STOP? How does HE know I'm not hiding ten other things?....and if I tell him the two things I know when he breaks my arm...might he not think I'll tell him even more if he breaks the other..and then both my arms? How is HE supposed to know when I've told everything I know? Or if it's true? How...just because it's what he WANTS to hear?

Torture is merely extra-legal PUNISHMENT...even the THREAT of it achieves the same purpose..an entire civilian population is placed on notice that they can be detained for anything...that they'll never know why..that there will be no recourse...that no one will ever know why or where they are, or hear from them again...this is torturing an entire population WITHOUT arresting anyone. They live in constant fear and uncertainty for their lives and the lives of their loved ones...especially their children because children can make mistakes...and those mistakes can be far more deadly than they ever would have been before.

We have not only starved Iraqi children, Christians as well as Muslims...we have not only gunned down civilians and called them whatever we needed to LATER..but we are over there TORTURING the descendants of Ashurbanipal...and aina and Aprim and Jassim and Wellfed and Jatou are ECSTATIC...because out of all this mayhem and bloodlust they see HOPE.

And what does it cost THEM? Wellfed changed his plans to attend Narsai's dinner just because I was going to be there...how do you suppose HE would hold up under torture?



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