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I`ll Tell You Why Not....
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Thursday, January 12 2006, 2:44:07 (CET)
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For one, we could see an increase in demands from the Assyrians, a nation which has the necessary arguments on their side in order to make a land claim from the yet-to-be established Kurdistan.

...Kurdistan has no "land claim"...as the Europeans had no "land claim" on America...as the Spaniards had no "land claim" on Mexico...they TOOK what they claimed...that`s the way it`s done in international affairs...Israel had no "land claim" either...they have a bible bullshit claim...but it was the same FORCE used by the others that got their "claim" verified.

...You make it seem like there`s an office somewhere where you present your documents..and if the office personnel judge your "claim" to be legitimate, they turn over the keys of the land you want to you. Hells bells the Seminole Indians HAVE such a deed...a document...a treaty, SIGNED by the US Congress and the president of the United States at that time...they HAVE it in their POSSESSION..and they can`t get SQUAT for it.

The Assyrians might present historical evidence of large-scale massacres carried out against them by Kurdish chieftains during the late 19th and early 20th centuries- massacres often blamed on Turkey, especially by another Christian minority with a more powerful diaspora, the Armenians.

...so what? How does evidence of "massacres" translate into a claim for land..or reparations of any kind? They were "casualties of war"...which is what YOU all call the recently murdered Christians of Iraq IF they are killed by fellow Christians..you call them MARTYRS when a Muslim kills them...go blow.

If all the efforts now being made in Northern Mesopotamia are for bestowing the Kurds with their long-desired independent state,

...no one bestowed shit on them...they FOUGHT and KILLED and STOLE for it....AND they`re determined to hang ONTO what they stole...like every other modern nation on the planet.

why so far have those who are passionately struggling for an independent Kurdistan failed to voice the same independence or autonomy arguments for other ethno-religious groups in the region? And in any case, could the latter follow the Kurdish example and demand greater autonomy?

...We can see by the quality of "Assyrian" heroes in America...especially on the net or working in gas stations owned by the GS grairs, that these people not only run, they shmear and crap their pants at the same time...those who remain are too cowed and alone to fight anybody...except of course other Christians.

...Christians follow the example of Jesus...remember? They grease the ball bearings on their necks and swivel from slap to slap...then they go up on the cross and take off for Heaven...just like Jesus did...had Jesus pulled out a "land claim" from his back pocket, Christians today MIGHT consider such a thing.

Historical residents of Mesopotamia, the Assyrians would make a capable nation,

...they can`t make a capable club...what are you talking about? They don`t even know what a Forum is...and democracy IN a democracy COMPLETELY eludes them.

especially considering their sizeable and wealthy diaspora.

..."sizeable" means they`re spread all over the place...but "wealthy"?

They might follow the example of the Armenian diaspora, which has constantly blamed the Turkish state for what happened in eastern and southeastern Anatolia in the early 20th century. They have done so because the Turkish state, then the Ottoman Empire, was the most relevant official entity against which those accusations and claims could be levied.

...they have no just claims...neither do the Natives of America nor the Aborigines of Australia..if the Iraqis of TODAY have not managed to get the the world`s sympathies for this most illegal and flagrant violation of Human Rights since the LAST Christian inspired Holocaust...why should Armenians or anyone else from decades ago get any better?

...How many starved to death babies makes for a "tragedy" these days? Apparently 600,000 children UNDER five doesn`t count anywhere...so what do you suggest...getting MORE killed?

Yet if it becomes independent, a Kurdish state would adopt all the rights and responsibilities of a sovereign state, and as such could be targeted as well by the very same diasporas, since it would have to account for the accusations in the court of public opinion and,

...what court of public opinion? Does your mother know you`re not in bed?

perhaps, under international law. The Assyrian communities either inside Turkey or abroad have not yet voiced their claim for territorial self-determination or autonomy.

..if the Palestinians don`t have a just land claim to PALESTINE...then no one has a claim to anything.

However, they might be encouraged to do so by certain pressure groups in the West who are deeply interested in reviving and promoting the ancient Christian heritage in the traditional Kurdish territories.[1]


...AAHHH...I knew I smelled a rat...a giant CHRISTIAN RAT...you mean you born agains want your Christlandia...in the MidEast...so maybe there can be more massacres of Christians so MAYBE the world will come SAVE you all and KILL all Muslims...as you Christians wanted to save your Race by recently killing ALL the Jews you could get your bloody paws on.

That said, an independent Kurdish state might presage further fragmentation in Mesopotamia, and perhaps the region.

...you should have told that to the Marines..litterally.

Who are the Assyrians?

...they don`t know themselves.

Those who believe Islam to be an “eastern” religion and Christianity a “western” one should think twice. The latter religion, after all, was born in the Middle East and branched out to Egypt, Mesopotamia and Asia Minor- all areas largely populated by Muslims now.

...glad you realized that...as Christianity pushed the Jews around...so Islam came to push Christianity around...shit happens.

For modern historians, the Assyrians of Mesopotamia are widely accepted to be ‘a Christian element of a most ancient and illustrious tradition’[2]

...for you, church "historians"...and to you people, "history" is as music is to a millitary band.

and ‘the spiritual descendants of the pioneer missionaries of the East.’[3]

...fuck you and your missionaries...biggest pains in the ass the world has ever known...you have missionized millions of innocent people to death. Not just bored them but had them KILLED.

Lastly, as the Assyrians themselves put it, they are ‘the most God-fearing and peace-loving people [Christians] on earth.’[4]

..of course they put it that way...what`s surprising is that they managed to get their fingers off each other`s throats long enough to say it in one complete breath.

...bunch of Christian twaddle!



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