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Re: And this from the Guadalajara Reporter...
Posted by Dr Pancho (Guest) - Tuesday, March 14 2006, 17:59:21 (CET)
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>--------Funny thing is Bartini's politics are totally opposite their anti-government posturing which reels in some of the local gringos - Neteri said he voted for Bush. Ironic that he's their biggest defender now. As to Bartini's wife, nice woman, but Neteri (Celina) could never make enough fun of her - dumb, ditzy, won't listen, can't ride etc. Couldn't stand to be around her, treated her like a dumb poodle. Now best pals. Used to talk against every woman and thought every guy was out to lay her.

...Celina did the same with my wife...she's threatened by any woman as Cance is by any man...what kills them both though is that in order to maintain their sort of superiority they have to lie...and it gnaws at them....they admit with every lie that they are INFERIOR...so it's an endless cycle.

...I said at the time, watching nhow Celina relates to other men, that her hidden message to ALL of them is: "right now I'm the mate of Chance...but if he wasn't around, I'd choose YOU". And they BELIEVED it.

...Once I needed a ride into town to get my truck from the auto mechanic and she drove me in in the Toyota truck they used...I thought it was odd that she changed into her long skirt...something she kept only for dress-up situations....during our ride into town she placed her legs in such a manner that the slit in her skirt went all the way up to reveal her crotch...and she stayed that way all the way into town...I couldn't help but notice...and I knew damn well a woman knows when her crotch is exposed...so I made just as much a point of turning away from her and looking out the side window all the way into town. She also let all the neighbors know she gave Chance haircuts, outside, topless. She claimed to me that one afternoon their landlord, Robert..came walking up and caught a glimpse of her boobs..at which Chance was "very upset". If it did happen, they BOTH set it up. Neither of them was above using Celina's body parts to gain an advantage, or set something up.

...I drove her daughter Hallie back from New Mexico...we were forced to stay overnight in a motel..I got us separate rooms...that lovely young woman was the most seductive girl I ever met..something her parents seemed to encourage...they also used Annie...every day for weeks Annie would be put out on a horse to ride in circles out by the road everyone living there had to take into town...I never got the impression that Annie liked riding horses...never saw her ride one unless Celina or Chance put her on one...Annie had long golden and beutiful hair..she's a stunning looking girl anyway...and Chance wouldn't allow her to cut her hair, or let het pin it up..the family was invested in her hair...they PUT her on a horse each morning with her long golden hair flowing...a sight meant to reel people in...and it worked.
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>"it isn't "their" magic that hoodwinks people...they know how to burrow into YOUR fantasies..."
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>---------And weaknesses, and all the secrets in your heart. And they are good at it, just not at sustaining it. And right again! Their lies got too grandiose not to be checked out. And they kept lists of marks like in SMA.

...that the the BEST find...After I chased them all off and after AFI raided the houses, shooting their poor guard dog in the process...i went in there to retrieve my saddles and such...I saw a box of papaers and took it...inside was a four page hand written attack plan listing exactly what they had done and what remained to do...including the names of all the people they'd told various versions of their story to...I gave that to the ministerio publico and it was one of the things that helped save my ass from the concerted campaign they and their followers were waging to have me jailed or deported.
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>---------Speaking of grandiose, check out their web site, especially "La Jornada". Such invention. Who is the British friend who had a Porsche? He's the one who concocted this surreal nonsense. http://www.caballorojo.com/en/jornada.php

...that's the reason the Marshalls told me they'd catch him eventually...because the dumb fuck would turn HIMSELF in...which, in essence, what he ALWAYS did.
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>"Celina and Lew or Sam or Chance...know damn well they're fooling people...and that can't feel good...I mean it feels good to know you got away with it..."
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>---------That's the sociopath - it feels good, validates them, pushes away the insecurity. Can't decide if his shill Neteri is also a sociopath or if he manipulates her completely like a puppet; maybe she's just very grateful for being rescued from table dancing?

..her story about being caught in a snowstorm with her daughters, right NEXT to a whorehouse and how she had to seek shelter there on CHRISTAMAS EVE...just like another Virgin..and how the whores were SO NICE and how they all spent a warm and fuzzy Eve together and how it was okay because she wanted her daughters to "see it was a hard life"..always seemed to me to be a confession that she did much more than dance on tables...


One of their tricks was "divide and conquer" - especially slandering men (peeping Toms, trying to catch her or her daughters naked, trying to chase Annie with rape in mind -you've heard this before) to alienate friends and couples and take business away from Mexicans. For her trouble, she's created a very weird teenager who's never set foot in a school.

...that's the tragedy...Hallie is a very talented woman...and Annie too...and she's drop dead gorgeous...it's sad to think of them having these two skunks for examples...hopefully they'll get out on their own before it's too late.

...when the Marshalls asked me to get a good photo of Chance for their warrant, Celine used that to claim I was taking photos of her daughters undressing...at 2 in the afternoon WITH two of my children in the car with me...I remember when I had to show up before an official...with my wife and lawyer, to answer this, her first of 13 charges against me...and how Celina played the innocent babe, with her landlady there to help her...and the official read the charge, "child pornography"..which, in Mexico is a serious charge...and they were all so solemn and serious...I burst out laughing and couldn't stop. celina thought I'd be stunned and cowed..instead I laughed and laughed...till the official warned me to "show respect"..and my lawyer too got very pissed...but it turned out to be the BEST reaction...the charge was dismissed for lack of anything to back it up...fortunately later the Consul spoke to the Marshalls and to the state prosecutor, so they knew what was up.
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>---------They may have crapped all around their campfire, but they got used to the smell. Don't think they noticed it anymore.
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>---------Nobody seems to know much about her past. She may be from NM but she also had family in OK, where he's from.

...she lies about everything..according to her her mom has a doctorate in anthropology, probably from Pacific Western University...her sister is a doctor and her brother was 12 times world kick-boxing champion.
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>..and by the way, they don't really work either...
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>---------Not only was the shoeing awful, but their pretence at training.....
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>"..in the end, Chance would fail every time because he'd eventually alienate all but the dumbest...and they weren't usually the ones who had much to offer him, besides dumb loyalty."
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>----------But sometimes they have networks too; they become middlemen, part of the foodchain. Those who believe most in them are the middlemen because they didn't (yet) lose much money. One fool who did get a taste has gone back to grovel and will get soaked for real one day.

...I ruined Chane's business by following himwhen he took customers out for rides...I wasn't going to let him earn anything using my horses...I also stopped a lawyer he was setting up one day...and warned him. Turns out this man had already been taken for four thousand but was set to give them more...Chance saw all this from his ranch down the road....things just kept escalating..it was bound to come to a head..as it always will wherever these skunks go.
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>---------The Rapid City Journal may think opinion here is "divided" but most of the Mexicans don't like them at all.
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>---------------As long as she remains in Mexico..... it's not over.-------------------

...they LOVE to cheat people. When the FBI froze their assets they had seven million in the BANK...and yet they owed thousands and hundreds of thousands to merchants around them...they LOVE making you crawl to them..they could have paid everyone off...in cash money...but preferred to see people, people who trusted them, CRAWL before them.

..I wil never forget the look of stark terror on Chance's face just before he went under my truck...he turned and looked back..and the hood was getting closer and closer..and he realized another of his fables about himself was going down, with him....he'd told me that with a good horse under him NO one could catch him...I had 350 GREAT horses and I caught the asshole!



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