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Re: Another Tiglath Defamation Case?
Posted by Tiglath (Guest) - Wednesday, February 22 2006, 15:48:42 (CET)
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>>That sounds like a challenge. Now Maggie I guarantee that if you can show me these legal papers then I will publicly apologise and
>>ban myself from this forum forever. It's really very simple to silence. Are you up to it? Post these papers for the whole world to
>>see. I am waiting.
>
>No need to ban yourself from anything. You have the original papers, I don't. Show us the original letter you sent to prove you didn't sign by that title, because that's what you are being accused of by the public.

### Just how much rent do you pay for that dreamworld you're living in? Not only isn't there an original letter signed by me that I was, am or ever will be a member of the ADM (Zowaa) but you also know that this is BS. Seeing as how you know so much about it why not post it and remove me permanently?

>>### Ahhh.......... but you DO give a damn...or you wouldn't be here supporting Dadesho. Again I ask you what documents have I signed
>>as a representative of the ADM??? Show them and I dissapear.
>
>Not true at all. According to the court transcripts, Church of the East testimonial, their lawyers and the witnesses in court, Mar Bawai was alleged to have embezzled more than $700,000 by purchasing church properties and putting them in his name, then refinancing them to draw out the equity and the question in court is where DID that money go? That's why they are going to trial. It was also revealed that some of that money had gone to Kanna.

### So are you now calling Mar Meelis a liar? :-)

>No, I am confirming Mar Bawai and Kanna are the thieves, and YOU were used to create this scandal and bring the church of the East down. I am also confirming that you were part of the Froggy scheme, because you eagerly invested but lost, which is why you were eager to bring them down. Are you ever going to take responsibility for your part in the Suleiman scheme? Or are you going to be just like every other Assyrian making yourself the victim? Answer this please.

### Are you the type that would catch a child sitting on a horny priests lap, their pants pulled down around their ankles, screaming "stop it", "stop it" and then blame the child for having a pulse? No? Then stop blaming the victims of the KSE scheme for the actions of Karl Suleman and his cohorts.

>>>
>>>I was referring to your affiliates that are stealing church properties as we speak, for their own selfish gains. It is Ashur Soro
>>who has designs on the patriarchate, not the other way around! So in my eyes he is just a guilty as Carl Suleiman. Except that he's
>>supposed to be a "Christian shepherd" which makes it all the more disgusting than any pyramid scheme!


### Hehehehe.....you guys are miffed because you realise that the pre-trial is over and that far from the easy promises of winning the church Mar Meelis has been bruised and battered and is limping home now to more divison in Sydney. You guys also realise that with 8 lawyers on both sides costing $80K per lawyer for a trial that may run for 2 years = $1.3 million! Which is untenable meaning that Mar Dinkha will soon be forced to step in control Mar Meelis again and try and heal the rift in the ACOE.

>If the churches and properties belong to the parishioners, then
>1-What about the parishioners that hate Ashur Soro because he has Zowaa skin-heads who will not let them in the church?
>2-Why did Ashur Soro steal their hard-earned money and put the properties in his name?
>

### You guys have no concept of strategy do you? You guys lost on October 5. It just took you 5 months to realise it. The reason you lost is because you bet on the wrong horse by tying your wagons to the corrupt Mar Meelis. Little did I know that exposing him wouldunravel your plans as well. Which sums up the anger in your posts.

>I could care less what happens. If they want to decimate each other, I'll cheer them on! But the fact is the case is going to trial, which makes your conclusion baseless.

### I doubt there'll be a trial. It's the equivalent of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) for the ACOE. It's something that Mar Dinkha will not allow. You guys had your chance and you blew it.

>NOT INTERESTED! They are exposing themselves, which is the Alaha Ashur way.

### Nice cop-out. Ok why don't you post the evidence that you have of him and I will give you my word that I will personally write an article and have Wilfred publish it in the next issue of Zinda?


>>>I have no personal motivation in this whole thing. Sargon Dadesho doesn't read this forum, so I am speaking as an individual and
>>would like you to tell us why you are NOT going after the others? They are all corrupt, so what makes one better than the other?
>>That was my entire point.

### You are nothing BUT emotions. Go back and reread what you've written.

>I find that hard to believe, since you were the one who innitiated the law-suit to begin with! You are the plaintive and would have most certainly been served.
>

### Well tell Mar Meelis that I was washing my jeans the other day and it's a good thing I checked the pockest because I found a $200K note in one of the back pockets. I decided not to spend it on a night out with the boys and instead have squirreled it away for the day Mar Meelis decides he wants to come down to Melbourne to collect it.

>>>>By trying to defame someone just for the hell of it, is hurtful, and not conducive to the overall betterment of the Assyrians.

### Unlike you I write based on fact and evidence unlike the way you've just finished defaming Mar Bawai and the ADM without posting one iota of evidence.

>It's your party, and you can spend as much as you want. My point was that you are selective in who you expose or hate. The rest is none of my business. But I would support you in your personal endeavors for fighting for our people, IF you were not involved in these schemes, to begin with. You stood to profit by being a participant.

### Yes I actually was an investor in the scheme. I sought legal advice from none other than Suzy David who swore to me that it was legitimate and then implied that we were investing in an ISP that was soon to be floated on the stock exchange. I lost $17K listening to Suzy David and Mar Meelis who stood in church and praised Karl Suleman and his businesses urging all Assyrians to show thier support for him. I have nothing to hide and I admit to being swindled by these people. The real question however is where you got this information from if as you state you truly are an "impartial" and "unemotional" observer.

>Why should I care about such an article? I am not biased. Maybe you think I am, but I'm not. As a social scientist, I can tell you Zibla magazine's poll is inaccurate because each question they ask has more than one variable. The margin of error is so enormous, it couldn't possibly be taken seriously. So you see, I DO always walk in with my chin-up!

### Thank you for confirming that Dadesho's supporters most probably faked the voting system on Zinda to make him Assyrian of the year. :-)

>>### You're right there must be another reason why there are two separate programs are cited for their anti-Iranian propaganda in
>>which the presenters speak in Azari Turkish and Arabic inviting their viewers in the Middle East to battle the Iranian government in
>>seceding the Azarbaijan and Khuzistan provinces for the Turkish and Arab people, respectively. :-)
>
>HOW WOULD YOU KNOW that's what they are saying, Tiglath. Do YOU speak Azari? Or are you just listening to more stupid people who have nothing better to do? And please tell us who is citing these programs as anti-Iranian propaganda? The same losers that hate Sargon Dadesho and will say anything to put him down? Is that your methodology of investigative reporting?

### You work with the man. Start by posting his Doctorate.

>>>That is absolute nonsense. If you can say that, you don't know Sargon Dadesho. Who is this "secret" sponsor you are alluding to?
>>Facts, please, because you are losing your credibility with all thes "manufactured" lies!
>>
>>### Please enlighten us about Sargon Daesho since you seem to know so much.
>
>As soon as you present your facts about the "secret" sponsorship your are alluding to.
>>>You called me a CIA agent, and never apologized. Furthermore, I never put down the legitimate work of ANY organization, only the
>>ones that manufacture MARTYRS for the sake of elevating their name and status, which is a murderous operation and YOU should speak
>>out aginst it, not condone it. I personally don't want an Assyrian organization that contributes to the death of our youngsters to
>>get more votes and a seat in the Iraqi parliament. We don't want a "Christian seat" period!
>>>

### I just thought I'd "chew your food for you" and finished looking through the posts but I still cannot find a post in which I called you a CIA agent. Would you care to help me find it?

>>
>>### Stop manufacturing lies. Show me where I ever called you a CIA agent and I will self-ban myself forever.
>
>There you go again with the self-banning. I would never want you to ban yourself from the only decent forum. You said, "AssyriSat is sponsored by the CIA, and since Maggie presents a show on that channel, she must have a vested interest in bringing down the AAS." What exactly does that mean, if not that I must be part of the CIA? You always go around making stupid accusations and not backing them up? I'm still waiting for you to prove your allegations.

>>
>>P.S. Asking three questions instead of answering my legitimate straight forward questions is not actually answering my questions.
>>:-)
>
>I have answered EVERY single question of yours. I'm not afraid of you Tiglath, if that's what you mean. I have nothing personally against you either, and if Farid likes you, there must be something to you. My only objection to your tactics is that you demonize and accuse people without a shred of evidence, and no proof!

### Yes I'm a very lovable and huggable kind of a guy. It's been a pleasure arguing with you. Keep 'em coming.



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