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Re: Behind the grassy knoll
Posted by beezelbub (Guest) - Tuesday, October 25 2005, 2:30:32 (CEST)
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Maggie wrote:
>beezelbub wrote:
>>Maggie wrote:
>>>"Maggie of course has a show on AssyriaSat and works with the CIA-funded Dadesho who has a vested interest in making the AAS look bad since their work in Iraq is politicaly supported by the ADM and gives the ADM popular support in Iraq."
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>>>Tiglath, then I must have a vested interest in participating on this forum, too.
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>>>YOu should try to uncover that plot, as well, before I infiltrate you too deeply!
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>>>Never mind, my dad always told me, "he who digs a grave for his friend, falls in it".
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>>....no one accused you of any kind of a plot. Why are certain topics off-limits? Why does someone's curiosity and doubt and questions earn them this kind of reply? Was it "digging a grave" for women to demand the vote? Was the investigation into Watergate digging a grave for anyone besides those who sought to bury others?
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>Tiglath wasn't talking about women's votes, was he? Nor was it "curiosity" or "doubt" about me specifically, otherwise he would have asked me a direct question, instead of making accusatory statements about my vested interests. He was talking about ME having a vested interest in something I have no knowledge of!

...he was making a guess that your insistance that AIDS is also ZOWAA...contrary to the oft espressed words to the contrary from its own president...made it look like you HAD an interest in making that case no matter WHAT anyone said...you have to admit you were rather insistant...for not knowing any more about it than what you heard or saw on a can.
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>>...do you actually believe that agents were sent to Ceres to kill Dadeeshoo? Or can no one ask that question? Can you respond to any one of us in any way you want...while the rest of us must show "respect" for you by NOT doing the same?
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>YOU and Tiglath have the right to ask me about something you "suspect" I have done and want to clear it up, but no one has the right to make-up stories about ME and accuse me of things I have never done, nor have any knowledge of.

...you didn't answer my question..it was a simple question...you asked for my beliefs...I'm asking about yours...you certainly suspected Narsai was either wrong or covering up...how else do you explain your insistance that narsai doesn't know the truth about AIDS and ZOWAA?
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>>..are you, GASP...beyond reproach...beyond even question?
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>Of course not, people have a right to say something about ME, and expect an answer. But he didn't do that, did he?

...he made a CLAIM...certainly you make bunches of them too...why so thin-skinned over it? You don't have to prove you DON'T have a vested interest...how could you do that anyway? You can't prove a negative...

>And don't you find it awfully "suspect" or coincidental that Tiglath would post his conspiracy theory now? I wonder who put him up to that?

...what conspiracy? He seems to imply that your attitude towards AIDS...insisting that their own president doesn't know the truth..as YOU do...seemed to indicate you had more than a disinterested point of view..and you DID seem awfully insistant...if you can find Tiglath's timing "suspicious" and perhaps masking an ulterior motive..why the hell can't HE do the same thing?

It's awfully opportune, don't you think? YOu see, I don't believe in "coincidences". EVERYTHING happens for a reason!

...calm...try to maintain some calm.
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>>>That's why I never worry about people like you!
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>>...what do you mean you don't "worry". Do you really WORRY about him...worry that he isn't sleeping enough..or getting enough to eat? Or do you mean you don't bother yourself over what he says...that any comments coming from a man, "like that", can be safely ignored...meaning thereby that he isn't important enough or qualified or knowledgeable enough to make such statements.
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>Of course I would worry if someone was talking about hunger, sleep deprivation, etc., but I don't worry about people making things up about me, Farid. Especially when they know NOTHING about me. You knew perfectly well that's what I was talking about, and not hunger.

...of course not...well, if you DON'T worry...why all the fuss? He didn't say he KNEW...and he didn't suggest WHAT your interest could be...but I too found your insistance sort of puzzling...like ehy WOULDN'T you be willing to take narsai's word for it when he says AIDS has nothing to dop with ZOWAA in any formal or structured way?
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>If Tiglath has a beef with Dadesho he should take it up with him, not me. That's how things are ususally done.

...what beef? He was reacting to your insistance that you KNOW sometrhing you really don't...seems we all do that.
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>>...is it NOT highly suspect that any agents came from Iraq to kill Dadeeshoo? Do YOU believe it? Remember, this is the same Tiglath who outed Ken Joseph...something you praised him for doing.
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>I have absolutely no knowledge of what went on before I came to this area. I never go up to people and say, this is what so and so is saying about you, what gives. I am not a nosy Assyrian.

...NOSY? How about NOT brain dead? It isn't a matter for suriosity that Saddam would send killers to Ceres to kill a guy who runs a bingo game? That story never struck you in any way as odd...left you completely unmoved?
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>There are many stories floating out there by many different people, and It's hard to know what is fact, and what is fiction. But since Tiglath is in the business of uncovering plots, why doesn't he directly deal with Dadesho? Why mention my name at all?

...because you were the one so sure Narsai doesn't know the truth about AIDS...can you really not see that?
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>Tiglath's conspiracy theories about the CIA don't jive. Because ALL Assyrian opposition groups, including ADM were working with the CIA to topple Saddam. Right Tiglath? That's why they were asked to convene in London and choose one person to represent Assyria, and they chose Yonadam Kanna. The G8 were made of ALL Assyrian political parties. Should I go around and accuse Kanna, Nimrod Bato, Eshaya Eshoo and all the rest of them as being funded by the CIA? That's just plain old dirty games, and I want nothing to do with it.

...well the CIA DOES do these things...not anting to deal with it doesn't mean it goes away.
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>I wasn't aware of Tiglath doing something against Ken Joseph. I only read the article that Jeff posted from Zinda which was about Tiglath trying to stop the church in Australia from involving innocent church members in investment schemes, and I did cheer him, because I believe in that cause.

...I distinctly remember you admonishing me when you first came on and didn't know how pretty I am, for calling Ken by his real and full name of "Kenfuck". I was writing about Tiglath's posts about the scumbag.
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>Tiglath should know for many, many years, I was an ADM supporter, and some of the most prominent ADM members are still my closest friends. They trust me enough to remain friends with me, because I have nothing against any Assyrian organization. They know I have no axes to grind with ADM/Zowaa, because I tell them straight to their face what I think, when they ask me something. They know exactly where I stand. They know MY ONLY BEEF with Zowaa is that if they are going to be in a leadership position, they have to open the Assyrian political arena where Assyrian political organizations work together, instead of destroying each other. And guess what? They agree too, and they criticize Zowaa in the same manner. Do they have a vested interest in destroying Zowaa? Of course not! We have to have dialogue, we have to have criticism when it comes to political work. We shouldn't be childish and think someone has a vested interest in destroying their own brothers and sisters. All ADM people know I have absolutely nothing against them, which is why we have been able to maintain our friendships, where others have failed.

...that is admirable.
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>Trying to accuse each other of this and that is not going to help anyone. And if you think I have a vested interest in destroying the ADM, you are way off the mark, and all because I may have criticized them a couple of times? That's like saying Farid has something against Zowaa, when he has made fun of them on this forum.

...I don't like their thugs.
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>Let's stop these destructive games. We only damage ourselves even more.
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>>...I am confused....
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>No you're not, you are never confused. I'm not going to engage in this. So you and Tiglath can write about me all you want.
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>The day Tiglath finds something that I have done that's so horrible that needs to be discussed in public and make a spectacle out of me, is the day we will go to court, like Tiglath did, and not do it on a forum.

...spectacle? We can't TALK about you? Please tell us...what CAN we talk about? It seems to me you react rather strongly for such a simple incident.
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>Until then NO ONE has the right to discuss ME the individual, publicly.

...brother...are YOU in the wrong ethnic group!



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