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Re: Farid jun
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Friday, May 26 2006, 0:23:48 (CEST)
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Don wrote:
>...you're entitled to your opinion...I see myself more as a person who looks underneath what you consider to be the "inside" of things....you go down deep, it's true...but I don't think you go down deep enough...underneath all the mumbo jumbo that you think lies at the core of things is a deeper layer yet...and down there there simply exists "I don't know". Any intellectually honest and unafraid person will say that..."I simply do not know". And having said that will still refuse to acceot as "explanations" all the wild-assed claims since we were eating our neighbors raw. Those who claim to have seen the Infinite, while barely maintaining a 3.5 grade point average at what laughingly passess for univesities in America...well, they know best.
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>---Inside Assyria indeed. You went into the philosophical. And it’s interesting how you’ve worded it. I was actually referring to control. Do you think that leaders of this world – no matter what their religion is – are in cahoots? Oh…my gpa is not 3.5 – it’s 3.97 and California universities are not bad…their K-14 schools are bad. I know b/c I lived in CT for a long time and the difference is huge.

...wasn't refering to you directly...just people who can barely balance a checkbook on earth but know what gives in heaven. California universities USED to be among the world's best...that was before Gov, RayGun.
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>...I have thought about it...a lot. Enough to know, with Gilgamesh, that not only will I NEVER know.,..but also that I don't NEED to know...and with Gilgamesh, it's enough for me to hold my woman by side, embrace my babies and bathe and wear clean clothes...our own wisdom is so infinitely finer than what them hoary Hebrews came up with that you could weep for its clear-eyed brilliance. I do NOT know...and more importantly, I don't NEED to know. I know enough to know there is nothing to fear in death...as there isn't in Life...except that I might wake up in that Christian hell you call heaven.
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>---Yes, I agree. Having a woman to hold by one’s side is truly a gift.

..if you're inclined that way...a good man by your side may suit other's.
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>...as the Jesuits say, "Give me a child till it's eight..and I'll have it for Life". People create religions from their fear and ignorance...which can be manipulated by rulers to maintain control...people as of yet have no faith in the goodness of human nature..if properly taught...you see parents using scare tactics to enforce obedience all the time..and a ruler has an even greater problem..."be quiet or I'll call the police"..."behave or the doctor will come and give you a shot"..."be good and I'll buy you that toy"...that's all religion is. Spirituality is another thing entirely...and you won't find that in ANY religion.
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>---Don’t you see my point? These religions have been held in place by a complex system of coercion and outright brute force in some cases. They are what subjugate the people. You think they will somehow disappear? I believe they will be manipulated to the point where people will embrace a “president of the world” and a world religion. Everything seems like it is gearing up for that – especially with globalization.

...you never know...certainly everyone wants to embrace money.
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>...that wasn't an Assyrian civilization..it was Sumerian.
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>---Funny, because it is part of every Assyriology curriculum out there. I’ve asked a few professors about this and asked if it was b/c the “Sumerian civilization” was a precursor to that of Assyria and thus is important to study b/c of its influence (just like Americans study Rome b/c many ideas were borrowed from it in the creation of the US). The answer was no. It is for this reason I will investigate this further.

...chronologically Sumer came first.
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>...also the advent of private property...tuff a man had to leave behind...it was then that paternity became all-important...a man wanted to be sure his 12 cows and three tin pots went to a son of his blood and not the neighbor's. Private property turned even the woman's womb into property...to be owned by ONE owner.
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>---Have you read Marx/Engels?

...just enough to get the headache. Them boys were good at blasting capitalism, but their airy fairy solutions were cracked...how would you like to be ruled by a bunch of auto mechanics?
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>...it won't work. The whole point of Life is that there is NO stability...there can never be a settled state
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>---With force there can (and I’m not saying its right).

...nope...especially not with force...every time it's been tried it failed...like the 1000 year Reich which barely lasted ten.
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>...balance and equilibrium is an impossible state...we are here to GROW...to travel towrds something without ever reaching it...there is no ultimate goal to reach...that's why children never take advice from their parents and teachers and priests..it would be a dead world if they ever did...if the could then we would have formed a perfect socirty long ago...we'd still be sitting round a fire in a clearing somewhere, maked and dirty...eating the last remains of cousin Moog...children would have believed those parents when they said, "this is the best of all possible worlds...we have achieved peace and continuity". Didn't happen then...won't happen today...will NEVER happen...because we aren't built that way...or we never would have gotten here...and we'll move again and again...there are no answers, you can see that clearly...humans have NEVER been finally satisfied...there are always and only better questions...that's what makes Life worth the bother. A "perfect" state, sucvh as your "heaven" is a huge bore...an infinity of never changing routine..one in which perfection has been reached...that's death and stagnation..it isn't Life..and an ETERNITY of that is sheer hell.
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>---Let this stupid ass war drag out at the degree it is at now for several more years and tell me then if people will not be willing to accept anything that comes along. You may be intellectually advanced but many people have not unlocked themselves yet. I agree with the 5% Movement on the point that a large amount of the people are sheep – subject to being fooled by the 10% (BTW, the 5% Movement doesn’t arbitrarily state that it is exactly those numbers…it’s just metaphoric). Isn’t that what several world leaders tried to do with WWI and WWII? They tried to make such wide-scale war that everyone would submit after seeing the wars drag out that long. Wilson was trying to get a version of UN launched then (the League of Nations). It didn’t really succeed b/c his own country did not want it. However, by the time WWII came around, the conditions were ripe. There was economic depression and the US needed the war to fuel the economy. When the UN was created, it was looked at as a necessity in the new world. I think that this time, the war(s) around the world are going to be so great and horrific (like right now) that people will submit to a one-world government.

..then there'll be a one-world French Revolution.
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>...NYAH NYAH Ashur to you too.
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>---Dork.



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