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Re: Nation and Nationalism Pancho said:
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Friday, September 15 2006, 19:30:47 (CEST)
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Ashur Beth-Shlimon wrote:
>Pancho wrote :
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>"you still haveīn`t defined "nation"...you merely use the word to suit yourself...and that`s precisely the reason people long ago decided to collect COMMON usage in things called dicvtionaries..so they could understand one ANOTHER..and not merely talk to the wall...you didnīt define "under occupation" either...the United States is far more "occupied" than ancient Assyria ever was...by your definition nine tenths of the Assyrian empire was "occupied territory" and hence illegitimate...would YOU have given any of it back? "
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>MY REPLY:
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>In many instances I elaborated on our Assyrian nation, that you refuse to accept, but to connected with what the English dictionaries came up with. Then why as I said before bother myself to define it, when you don't accept?

...because YOU are not qualified to define the English language. You make up what you need to prove yourself correct...at that rate there would be no dialogue anywhere...and it should be no surprise that none of you get anywhere when you demand the right to define words as suits your individual needs..obviously you aren`t interested in talkiing to anyone BUT those who agree with you already..and since none of the people who have the things you want agree with you...you can expect to get nothing from them. And we already know that besides petitions and dead Christians, you can do NOTHING for yourselves. But I forget..the ONE criteria you all agree upon for proving you are "Assyrians" is that you are the only ones who TALK so much about it...which means that merely talking about it suffices...and it shows.

...after all has been said about the meaning of "nation", you have provided nothing but your own prejudices and wishful thinking...what it boils down to is that there exists an Assyrian nation because YOU say so...which brings us back to where we were....as you can see there is absolutely no point in discussing anything with you...for you will merely twist and ignore things in order to prove you are right...this is uncivilized as well as dumb..it proves you are ignorant and content, even proud, to stay that way..once again let me remind you that I didn`t give you MY personal definition of "nation"...I gave you the accepted definition among wiser and more ecuated people than you or I...
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>Furthermore, in the same SOURCE ( English Dictionary ) of ' New World Dictionary ' on page 946:
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>The third definition which says ,' THE PEOPLE or TRIBE ';esp a tribe of N. America ( and why not of N. Mesopotamia ?).

....because a tribe isn`t a nation...I pointed out already that the dictionary says this is the ARCHAIC usage of "nation"...but you have once again only selected what suits you...I suppose it`s too much to ask you to look up "archaic" either.

...you all do yourselves and your points of view great damage by this kind of petulant behavior....which supports my other contention: that all your "politics" amounts to are the tricks you used as children to get your way with your parents...you are undisciplined intellectually...you want something because you WANT it and think that suffices to make it rightfully yours...and you act like children who are either beling bullied and look to a Mama to protect them as well as a papa or older brother to fight their battles for them..or whom some adult is witholding toys from.

...if you`re going to use the English language to explain yourselves....you hardly get off to a good start by claiming you don`t need to use the accepted definition of English words...like Hanna who came out and said that he didn`t need dictionaries because he "knew" what he meant.

In the long run you are mostly harmless....the harm you do is heap insults upon a noble heritage that has beed saddled with the likes of you...petty Christians who are desperate NOT to be "Arabs" and so have latched onto the notion that they MUST be Assyrians because THEY say so...on top of which you are all GLAD as hell that you are no LONGER Assyrians but reconstructed Jews.

Your mental functions are a mess...is there anything left to explain about you...as a "nation"?



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