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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Tuesday, January 17 2006, 0:25:06 (CET)
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Don wrote:
>Shlama,
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>Farid:
>"...well, do you or do you not want a homeland? Would you NOT have been grateful to the Brits if they`d actually followed through on their promises? And if they had,,,would you NOT be singing the praises of Lawrence...the spy who used the Arabs to get YOU Christlandia?"
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>No, I don't want Christlandia. Even Jesus himself would not want his way to be institutionalized and forced upon people via the sword. I want my country to be called Assyria (and that's my ideal) and I don't care if muslims or christians live in it so long as our Assyrian-ness comes first and loyalty to ourselves before loyalty to clergy/clerics.

...okay...but if Lawrence, spying for the British, had managed to get you ASSYRIA...would you or would you not be singing the praises of this "spy"?
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>Farid:
>"...The may call themselves Arabs AFTER calling themselves Iraqis...as an Englishman might say he is European AFTER he is an Englishman."
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>-Yes, the word Iraqi has caught on in people's minds. Nothing I can really do about it at this moment. However, with Iraq divided the way it is, I've noticed several people/groups indentify themselves with their sect of Islam followed by "Arab." That's what I've noticed.

...okay. Can`t blame them...I certainly wouldn`t be offended to be known as an Arab.
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>Farid:
>"...not true...if you mean the majority of the Christians were pig ignorant...then you`re right...but Agha Potrous wasn`t "everybody"...the common folk went along with their church..."
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>-Like I said, why help the French? I respect him, what he did, and his efforts, but we should not have helped them. Remember, they poisoned him. We should have saw through the West's lies and worked hard to form a coalition with the Muslims so they couldn't have screwed us this hard.

...I agree.
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>Farid:
>"...he was born in Urmia...but after fighting with Agha Potrous`s army, he and his family fled to Iraq...my father was four at the time....but he claimed to have been born in Iraq, for political reasons. Hakim Baba was sent to a hospital in Mosul where he worked round the clock...he was the ONLY Christian doctor the refugees had...at the hospital he accepted whatever people had to pay with...plus rates were fixed by the government...some years later, with ten children to support, he finally managed to open a private clinic...rather, he DARED to open a private clinic....for that`s when the Christians got out their long knives...they accused him of wanting to "make money"....they`d become accustomed to the government paying their way...or paying with stones and milk...the idea that Hakim Baba had "set himself above them" drove them to lie to the authorities, to "cut him down to size" and "keep us humble"...Like our LORD! Like I said, it backfired beautifully because from then on it was a Muslim hand that went up their Christian wives ass."
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>-Do you know what village/matta he was from in Urmia?

...Sheerabaat...I think.
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>Farid:
>"..it would be unfair of me to prejudice you...the best thing for me to do is tell you he works at a family run gas station in Los Angeles...he is a Christian...and he writes over at bethsuryoyo.com. They would love to have you over there. To me GS is as fine an example of all that is wrong with Christians claiming to be Assyrians as I`ve been fortunate to find...I use him acordingly."
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>-No that's ok. All you had to say was that website's name. I don't want to go to a website where they always have to be correct. I don't need make-believe "clerics" to feed me their extremism/fanaticism.

...GS...like every other person in the world is welcome to speak to us directly...what I particularly enjoy is this business of pretending to be seeking a confrontation while refusing to budge from his room...where I can`t get to him because the moderator protects all the little hairy darlings over there...which emboldens them all the more...at least that`s what they call it...but really, I couldn`t have asked for a better foil...the guy was sent by Ashur to make my point for me.
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>Regards,
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>Donald

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History's Burden In Iraq Maggie - Saturday, January 14 2006, 2:03:14 (CET)
- I take exception... St. Pancho - 01/14 02:43
  - T.E Lawrence... St. Pancho - 01/14 03:09
    - Re: T.E Lawrence... Don - 01/15 08:13
      - Re: T.E Lawrence... pancho - 01/15 17:40
      - Re: T.E Lawrence...once more pancho - 01/16 01:10
        Re: T.E Lawrence...once more Don - 01/16 04:08
        Re: T.E Lawrence...once more pancho - 01/16 15:25
        Re: T.E Lawrence...once more Don - 01/17 00:08
        Re: T.E Lawrence...once more pancho - 01/17 00:25

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