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Re: oh for the love of...!!!!
Posted by Maggie (Guest) - Friday, February 24 2006, 21:44:44 (CET)
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Farid, Farid, Farid, you are getting frazzled. Why the drama? Is it because you are losing your objectivity?

NO academic or scientific world will stand for this nonsense. They have standars which you and Tiglath have not met.

You have lost the argument, period! That's why you resort to calling me names.

Take it like a man!




pancho wrote:
>Maggie wrote:
>>Tiglath, I hesitate to teach you something, lest you say I'm defending Dadesho, but I will follow yours and Farid's logic/advice and say it is my duty to teach you something, so that the Suzie's, the Suleimans, the Mar Melis of the world don't defeat you in court when you go to butt heads, next time.
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>...they didn`t butt heads...Tiglath wasn`t there to butt heads...there has been no meeting in court between them yet...
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>>The documents you posted on Pacific Western don't prove/reveal anything, unless you do your research scientifically/academically/legally/professionally.
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>...why must he duplicate what the Federal investigators already showed? Did you read the entire thread? Or were you too busy NOT defending Dadeeshoo?
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>>The things you must show are as follows:
>>1-You must first establish the time line Dadesho attended this particular college, as this university has an otherwise good reputation, (as stated by Farid).
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>...which university? His resume lists one so-so college..and the other is a diploma mill. You do not ATTEND diploma mills...your money attends them...you get your degree by PAYING for it...
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>>2-Once you have established the time line, then you research the period when this practice was prevelant in this university.
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>..that`s ALL this "university" does...why do you call it a university? Not even Stanislaus is a university..it is a college with attitude...a university has SEPARATE libraries for EACH special department..not one great big one for eveything. That`s only one characteristic...but why the fuss? NO accredited university gives life experiance DEGREES...we all know he bought it...you addmitted it yourself...so what`s the fuss about "time lines"?
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>>3-Once you have established that, then your next step is to obtain a list of all the graduates that attended this university during this period, who might have received such credits, (as based on life experience).
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>...stop hopping back and forth...a legitimate university will give you SOME credits for life achievement...no one is disputing that...that isn`t the iddue here...the issue is that these motel diploma mills give you a DEGREE...even an advanced degree for nothing more than cash and "life experiences". Why don`t YOU do some research? Tiglath is doing his...why does he have to add to his burden what you tell him to...YOU establish these time lines for Dadeeshoo...YOU get the lsist of "graduates". Tiglath is making HIS case...why don`t you make YOURS...instead of merely faulting his? Why don`t YOU..and for that matter, why doesn`t Dadeeshoo make these cases FOR YOU? Why must Tiglath do it for you both?
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>>4-Then proceed to establish of those credits, how many were actually applied towards that degree.
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>...that is also besides the point. I seriously doubt you would send such a request to the Modesto Bee...with your name attached, telling them what they must do to satisfy you..or Dadeeshoo...they DID their report..they investigated every claim he made...which included, at the time, that he got a degree from the University of Cal at Santa Barbara...they found NO evidence for his advanced degree...and they said so..in print. Dadeeshoo proved them right by threatening to sue them if they mentioned it again...which was all they needed to certify their case...they waited for HIM..and like the dummy he is, he fell into their trap...for everyone knows that if he HAD such a legitimate credential and could have SHOWN it and SHOWN the Bee to have been sloppy...he would have scored the BEST victory...but instead he did what they counted on..what all scoundrels..he threatened to sue them...at which point they were done with him.
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>>5-If you discover that the majority units were earned in that context/framework, then you have something, otherwise, there's no correlation, and you have not proven your hypothesis.
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>..it`s no hypothesis...it`s there in black and white in government reports...his doctorate did NOT come from any legitimate college or university but from a diploma mill...it is HIS theory that he has a legitimate doctorate..let HIM prove it...he made the claim, not the Bee and not Tiglath or I...HE did...so, the easiest thing to do is SHOW the damn degree...which, if he really had one, he would have plastered on his forehead long before this.
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>>The same goes for the documents you posted in Zinda. Although one of them indicated that Mar Melis did purchase a house with Eva as joint-tennants, it did not establish, beyond a reasonable doubt, that they were co-habitating. Many people purchase homes via the tennants-in-common clause, for the purpose of investment, or to help out a friend from losing that property to their spouse or ex-spouse, without actually living together. So that document proved nothing in a court of law, and caused you to lose your case based on unproven allegations.
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>..he didn`t show up...it was a judgement by default...I also didn`t show up to the first trial and Jackie won by default..which was all the sweeter because she never could collect anything and THEN I sued HER and then she uppped it to two million and we had a LOT more fun till she dropped out.
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>>If you are going to try to do something, you must do it properly, and legally, otherwise you stand to lose, which is a waste of time. No one will take you seriously if you have not taken the proper steps to prove your case, unless it is for the purpose of creating a scandal, but even then, the educated people will not be convinced and you lose credibility.
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>...I dropped out of school in the third grade...I am not educated...but I believe Tiglath is doing it exactly right...far too often those with money to spare can intimidate people through the courts...it is every persons right to fight back as best they can..in this case...Tiglath isn`t the one who has to prove Dadeeshoo`s doploma is bogus...Dadeeshoo has to prove it is legitimate...for HE said it is...when he hasn`t been able to produce it...the rest of us, who know the rat better than you do, apparently, decided to make the case loud and clear that Dadeeshoo must NOT have such a degree..or he`d show it...we know how these guys love to embellish their shabby resumes...so if he had one..he wouldn`t be so damn secretive about it.
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>You talk like the government which rolls back the Freedom of Information Act and then DARES any citizen to show the PROOF for allegations that Bush is screwing us...if the fuckers would instead throw their books OPEN...we`d find the proof fast enough...that`s all Dadeeshoo has to do....provide some direct freedom of HIS information...and we`ll easily prove what we suspect and what the Bee...a highly respected newspaper..has already shown...that Dadeeshoo BOUGHT his doctorate,..and the scam is that he got credits for "life experiences"...and we all know..or you should at least...that NO college gives you an entire degree for your experiences in life...
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>>I also hesitate to give you the next piece of advice, but I don't want to be accused by you and Farid of not following my own advice when it comes to going all the way.
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>>If you were really serious about writing an open letter to Dadesho, you wouldn't post it on a forum that he doesn't read.
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>..Maggie, Maggie, Maggie...we know that every one of these fuckers READS EVERY FORUM...this one more than any other. Even Kanna reads here...from Iraq! Besides that...I don`t think Tiglath is shy about contacting him directly..I realize your dilemna..it is the same thing Narsai and any number of others tried to impress on me..that same old tired argument that these are the BEST we can hope for "right now"...so let`s take the "good" they do and pass over everything else...especially their lies. It won`t do any longer...from now on we want no more "good" that comes to us with this much bad attached to it...you would never say that about a surgeon...neither about a plumber...we want the BEST...not the best we can "hope for now". We keep this up and it will be ALL we`ll ever get. You`ve got to cut loose from these people sooner or later..if I can find no better Assyrian patrons than Narsai or a Nimrod or Bejan..then it`s better I have NONE...it may indeed be past the time when those of us who are serious, take this Heritage all the way OUTSIDE of the grubby mitts and clutches of those who think to do good by us in these ways.
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>Dadeeshoo didn`t need a fake degree to run a bingo parlor..or have a teevee station...so what was the point? The point is to impress people who will therefore REMAIN easily impressed, who demand no more of a Dadeeshoo than they expect of themselves...people to whom the probablity of something, like this putz having a doctorate, won`t matter that much...and that is more damage than any good he will ever do.
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> You would send it to him directly, or put it on his forum. Otherwise, you are "flying too close to the sun" and might melt your waxed wings. If I was to challenge someone, I wouldn't crawl in a hole and yell, "come and get me".
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>...this is hardly a hole....unless you like crawling into them too. You`re coming frayed at the edges...it would help us all if you`d lay your cards on the table...it becomes increasingly obvious that there is much more here than meets these eyes...I fear me you are not working from principle at all...
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>methinks the lady doth protest too much....



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