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To pancho; Re Fred's book

Posted By: David (d58-104-79-48.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au)
Date: Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 2:00 a.m.

Hello;

You wrote ***he whole point about YOU is that you are NOT writing History..you are writing what you WANT to be history...that is vastly different.****

Here, you merely are saying that Fred's book historically is inaccurate.

...and that is merely all Fred is doing...writing what is historically inaccurate.

You either must write your own book

...must I? Then let Aprim and several others make their own monuments, before stating that mine are inaccurate. There are thousands of art critics who don´t paint...there are millions of book reviewers who don´t write books...if I tell you your cure for cancer doesn´t work, it doesn´t mean that I have to go find one that does, or else accept your`s. I can legitimately discuss your failure to find one plus your attempts to pass your fraud off as a real cure. Come on...be a litle serious.

and provide references so the readers can actually agree with your point or the readers will see your post as personal insults and merely based on lies.

...they are not lies and Aprim is the master of personal insults...it is no insult to speak the truth about Aprim...he is a poorly educated man who desperately wants to be passed off as a man of substance, without bothering to pay his dues. One book with his take on events has supposedly elevated him beyond the rest of us and our comments...so that merely to question his Royal Greatness brings abuse down on our heads.

I'd like to see how well you could put your case (book) on the shelves.

..I can self-print anything at all...Hitler did. You are all mistaking PRINTING with "publishing". In order to get a history book PUBLISHED by a legitimate PUBLISHER your manuscript has to be circulated among scholars in the field...and don`t tell us there are no experts in this secret field. Many and many a history book has posited revolutionary and unheard of before interpretations. In the first place no publisher will put a dime into a book made up of things lifted from other books...that´s merely a reading list...except that Aprim has taken out what HE likes...for YOU to read...as HISTORY!

The self-printing industry is a huge one because there are LOTS of Aprims who feel that by putting a cover round their personal musings they have been PUBLISHED. I can print a hundred books to every one that Aprim does...but I´m not going to bother...when I write one, it will be submitted for PUBLICATION...and if it is rejected, I sure as hell won´t print it myself and have a BOOK SIGNING!

It´s a question of integrity...Aprim should have been the first to state that his book was PRINTED by HIM. All he`s done is play to his friends...told them what they want to hear...which is mostly what you all insist upon...and you call THAT "truth". That is SO silly and dishonest.

It would be the same as me making a monument for the Civic Club in Turlock and telling you all I was an ARTIST! I made a point of going out THERE and taking my chances...and the approval I received for my work benefits us ALL...because it shows we can indeed play by the strictest rules there are. And since I was able to earn several thousand dollars for my work, other Assyrians have been able to raise their prices to a reasonable level...Aprim has resorted to the easy way..the way of "greatness" that costs all of $1.23. We can do better...but before we can, we have to re-define many things...and "book" is one of them.

I believe all this is only personal attacks just because you don't like him;

...that´s all you people EVER think. Like children, everything centers round what you like and don´t like. I dislike what Aprim DOES...not who he is. Like the Palestinians...who don´t dislike JEWS...they dislike ANYONE who would do these kinds of things to them. There are lots of people I can respect as professionals I may dislike as individuals. It always comes down to that with you all...a plaintive cry that you are NOT LIKED.

I hope you could prove me wrong.

...there is no need to for, like Aprim, I am merely stating an opinion...that´s all. You´re welcome to disagre and disparage it too...

I also believe that our readers need our support no matter what their political stands might be or how different our opinions are.

...that´s the old..."support him no matter what because he´s Assyrian and we have no one else". I flat out reject that and see it as a most pernicious way to enshrine mediocrity among us...to put a seal on us and keep us barefoot and illiterate forever. We wouldn`t dream of saying about a doctor, "well, he`s not much of a doctor but he`s ASSYRIAN and ALL we have so let`s let him operate on our children".

We have to set the HIGHEST standards for ourselves...not place the bar so low that every Aprim can step over with ease. To illustrate the point...I´m the only Assyrian sculptor or any other kind of Assyrian artist I know of who`s sold over a million dollars worth of sculpture TO ASSYRIANS. This has made people like Peter and Aprim dislike me intensely. Why? You`d think they`d see some hope in that...you`d think they`d recognize that this means our people ARE willing to pay and support our artists, so Peter could hope to sell his atrocious poetry instead of give it away, or Aprim could earn a real living from his "books"...IF..(and it is a BIG "IF" that scares Aprim silly)...IF we do QUALITY work up to the HIGHEST standards! Aprim can`t and he knows it...more than that, he doesn`t feel he should HAVE to! He and apparently you too, believes that he must be rewarded simply for being "one of a few" who BOTHER.

That isn`t good enough and Aprim`s quality of work is also not good enough. He can be the nicest guy in the world and I can be the worst..that isn´t the point. Nice guys aren`t going to get us anywhere...they haven´t. We need PLAYERS who can get up there on the OUTSIDE stage and shine, or even fail...like we can produce in medicine and the sciences...I´m sick and tired of Assyrians treating Letters, the Humanities and the Arts as if they are minor endeavors...so anyone can do anything!

We forget that we are known today because of our ART! The world respects our ancestors, not for the bible, but for our SCULPTURE, among other art forms. We were among the best THEN...we can do it again. Writing is an ART..and Aprim is a HACK! Let him...it´s a free country...but I`m not going to allow him to pass himself off as anything other than what he is...for the sake of our children we have to take them to REAL doctors, not quacks. If we wouldn`t do the one...let´s not do the other.

Don't you agree?

...not at all. You are all free to critique my work without having to go out and make sculpture yourselves. That is absurd. I am the harshest critic of my own work. Several times I´ve had to correct people when they insist on calling me "great"...or an "artist"...I am none of those things. I am a sculptor, not an artist...that`s something to be decided by others long after I`m dead. And I am NOT great. I don`t need to be great...I merely have to be "good enough". Not "good enough" to get the approval of my two friends or community...good enough to get on that stage..out there in front of the world where every passerby can comment and critique my work. And that´s something that terrifies the rest of you...which is the reason you want to enshrine Aprim...so it can be THAT easy to be "great". You are desperately seeking to praise yourselves THROUGH your easy and overblown praise of Aprim. You fear without an Aprim you`ll have no one...no contender. What you don´t see is that you are setting the standard so low that you turn AWAY all of us who could be SERIOUS writers and artists...you force us to go work for others...for Jews and others who know what quality work means...and how much real effort it takes.

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