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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Tuesday, May 16 2006, 17:53:21 (CEST)
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...let`s grant that Firas and Aprim are direct descendants of Ashurbanipal...coming at the end of a line that goes back about 2500 years...and let`s grant them that they are the original and indigenous people of BetNahrain...now how does that translate, in their pointy heads, into a "right" to be given back anything in Iraq...or to any special prvilleges?

Jeff`s example of Canada is good to remember. The tribe there has a claim far more recent..and there can be no doubt that they are who they say they are...but also, the lands they got back certainly don`t generate the kind of interest and greed as Iraq does.

In North America any number of native indigenous tribes have not only a moral claim, but some even have treaties still extant that promise them lands or the return of lands. And here we`re talking about times barely past...like say, 150 years. Also, these people are who they say they are...no one disputes that. If there was any chance at all of America seeing the "moral argument" and feeling moved to give back land to indigenous people...you could gauge that liklihood by what they have done in their own country.

In the 70s the American Indian Movement made active claims for the return of certain lands..most of them worthless...it was a symbolic gesture. One such place was Alcatraz Island in the Bay Area. In Oklahoma and other places native Americans gathered to demand the ruturn of what was originally stolen from them. They too had stories of all they had suffered as a result of this theft and colonization by the White Man...they could match horror for horror with Assyrians ANY day.

In the end, the Fedral Government let loose the FBI...many leaders were killed in dubious gun battles and others are still in prison on trumped up charges...the rationale was that by placing such claims against the legitimate government of America, the native people were engaging in sedition...which is illegal both here and in Iraq. Using violence and extra-legal means, the government broke the AIM with much bloodshed...and no one has uttered a peep since then about what is owed them.

If you consider that our boys are wailing to this SAME government about their rights in Iraq...and expect to be heard and supported...you have to conclude that somewhere since the fall of Nineveh some pretty stupid blood got mixed into the bloodline of Ashurbanipal.

Or maybe it`s this Christian thing...which boils down to a Jew coming to rescue you...because you can`t or won`t.

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on moral claims... pancho - Tuesday, May 16 2006, 17:53:21 (CEST)
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