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...immigrants come to America, become citizens and sign an undeclared agreement to wage war against their own birthplaces and people...even families. It's the price they promise to pay unthinkingly....without realizing that the western nations, especially America and Britain have a well established policy of waging wars against the weakest nations who also happen to have the last remaining resources to be drained before each begins to use up the last of their own.

The suicide bombers in London turn out to have been home-grown...men born and raised in England but really from MidEast countries and all of the Muslim faith...I lifted this...it's a statement from their supposed leader...

"Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate injustice against my people all over the world, and your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters," Khan said, looking into the camera."

...now, why isn't this the simple truth? What would we think of an American...born in Libya of American parents...a Christian...who joined the Libyan army and came to New York to kill? Why can't it be the case that many Muslims in Britain, who never dreamed they'd be paying for the next Holocaust...another Crusade...directed against their own people...suddenly awoke with a shock that they were supporting the murder of their own people...the very cultures that gave them birth?

..how would a Jew living in America react if he or she knew that the money they gave their government in the form of taxes was being sent to Germany to kill Jews?

He also said Prime Minister Tony Blair "not only disregards the millions of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, but he does not care about you as he sends you to the inferno in Iraq and exposes you to death in your land because of his crusader war against Islam."

...well? Isn't this also true? We know we were lied to...if indeed the Muslim world posed a threat to America and Britain, surely Muslims in those countries would defend their new homes...isn't that what the Japanese Americans did in World War II...even though our democractic government feared their loyalty...do you know which company was the most decorated for bravery in that war? Do you know the ethnic make-up of the 442? They were all Japanese Americans. Muslims in Britain and America would have responded the same way...only this wasn't the case...there was no good reason to go to war to begin with...there was even less reason to occupy the country...who you gonna kill? When there are no soldiers in uniform opposing you, how you gonna tell an ex-soldeir from a civilian? Will natural resentment at being occupied, which shows itself too clearly, become in itself a sign that people are hostile and are therefore HOSTILES? Who WOULDN'T be under those circumstances?

...this occupation has turned into a war crime...the deliberate slaughter and abuse of people who never did a goddamned thing to anyone until THEY were set upon...is that REALLY so surprising or unusual? can we NOT put ourselves in their shoes? Under these circumstances I can imagine LOTS of Muslims feeling outrage at the gross injustice...remember, the things being said today about how Muslims are "just like that" and therefore DESERVE all the things we do to them are NO different from what we heard expressed against Jews just a few decades ago...and we all remember where that led. Could it be that young Muslims are honestly concerned that this is merely the beginning of a greater Holocaust against their people and religion...after all, Christians just did it to Jews...and should it surprise us that Muslims don't want to wait until they too are hauled off?

...How many Jews wish they had started earlier to fight back against the Nazis?

Azzam Tamimi of the Muslim Association of Britain said the tape, if genuine, confirmed a link between anger over Iraq and the London bombings.

...as the war on Iraq supposedly came about because of anger in America over the 9/11 bombings...although in that instance not ONE of the attackers was Iraqi...still, the Iraqi people pay the price.

"The involvement of Britain in the war in Iraq has provided Osama bin Laden with extra ammunition to recruit these young Britons and brainwash them," Tamimi said.

...I don't know about the brainwash part...seems to me the West is doing the brainwashing...radical Islam is merely reacting to what fundamental Christianity is doing to all Muslims...the same as they did to all Jews 60 years ago.

...To insist that these Muslims are "just like that", meaning that they enjoy blowing themselves and innocent people up and have no good reason to be angry or desperate...that there is no linkage whatsoever between what WE do to them and how they respond, is insane...it absolves us of all responsibility...we can rape women at will and blame THEM for resisting, which forces us to break their legs...on top of punishing them for scratching us while we hold them down...all the while maintaining that the act of rape is nothing to get THAT upset over...because WE like it!

Name a Muslim nation that has been building its own weapons industry? These are desperate people, completely outnumbered...in this case "terror" is as acceptable as any other tactic used by the West in this war. Is it ONLY Muslims who are killing civillians...killing children? Didn't America just finish killing off 600,000 Iraqi children under the age of five??? Does it make any difference, in your revulsion factor, to think of US soldiers spraying a crowd of hungry civilians with gunfire...or one fighter wading into that same civilian crowd with a bomb strapped on?

When DO you fight back?

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