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Re: One Must Learn from His/Her Experiences

..then I suggest you go outside your little world and gain some.

In Response To: Re: response to gaby (watcher)

I am not sure what is this issue of debate that you keep bringing up.

...there is none. I merely made some observations...you are free to ignore them...if you can wrap your head around them and they interest you, give it your best shot. For instance: What is it that makes you think anyone gives anything "back" to indigenous people? Also, where did you get the notion that in a democracy minority rights must be PROTECTED by the majority..and: where do you see this operating in American society...and: is there no difference to you between the cultural and intellectual background of the American experience and that of the Iraqi experience, seeing as how one of them has the Renaiassance, the Age of Reason, The Enlightenment etc in its recent past while the other has 400 years of increasingly corrupt Ottoman rule in its recent past....if these subjects pose no interest for you, or you find them intellctually insulting to your magnificence...let them pass. It takes a curious mind...not one set in cement to deal in such topics.

I have no interest to debate with you; you have your opinion about the issues and I have mine.

...which is exactly why all your calls for "unity" go unheeded....they have their's and you have your's and no one is interested in debate unless it is a pleasant chat with someone else who feels almost exactly as you do, because if not...voices and emotions might be raised and you'll get your feelings hurt. You said it best yourself, it is a LITTLE world you aspire to..in such a cramped space you can pick and choose who you "debate" with...there will be no real argument...and nothing that is settled in such a small world will have any meaning in the larger world...where events and people impact on your "little world" all the time, without you being able to do a damn thing about them.

My personal opinion on many issues concerning our people is well known and my articles are posted all over the place and are read world wide.

...so are mine. My monuments are here and there as well...that doesn't mean I've achieved anything of note and rather than sit on my laurels I'd rather continue the good fight.

I do not need your approval on anything or to prove anything to you.

...Who said anything about approval? Is that what you seek when you do things? I don't need your approval either..but I do need to challenge myself so I get tougher and better...

Being macho, rude, abrasive, and mean does not work most of the times.

...I am none of those things...but if confronted by people who think they're going to easily intimidate me, as it seems so easy to do to your type of Assyrian, then those people will be in for a rude shock.

..I have no doubt you are well versed in intimidating people...as when you threatened to "expose" my children during a "debate" you were losing. I've seen you people do that before: when you sense things are going badly for you, you take a swipe at someone's mother, father or children...oh yes, and wife too. I'm sure you weren't expecting to be hit back much harder than you tried...that was a good lesson for you...you tried to scare me off the debate but instead removed yourself. You sound like Uncle Sam: You can do what you want...but if anyone dares resist you and then bests you at your own game, you become "insulted".

Just look at your case. I do not want to bring it up but it is a good example. It just surprises me that you keep bringing up this issue that we need to become mean and rude to win our battles when your own personal experience in life lost you a lot.

...lost me not a damn thing. As I told everyone: there is no such thing as bad publicity for an artist. Apparently you're refering to this "little world" and the sales I lost in it. I was ready to leave that little world...it was high time..past time...and I'm glad I had some help in doing it.

...I gained far more than I lost. I gained an invaluable insight into what makes this nation tick...what living in the West has done to those who moved here looking for salvation...I understood far better why we are in this position...and I had a lot of fun in the process.

...Over twenty years I sold almost a million dollars in sculpture to ASSYRIANS and installed the first Assyrian public monument anywhere in the world in the last 2500 years...but your world is too small for me...still there are things worth saying.

..It was not rudeness that got me here..it was an insistance that people who know nothing besides what they THINK they know would not stop me...that anyone who tried it would pay a price...a big one, I hoped.

...and yet again, as you can see...you have all the time in the world to evade and sidestep. If you have nothing pertinant to say on the issues why do you, of all people, give me a lecture?

...I have no doubt you were involved in the AIDS people's decision to refuse my donated sculpture and the gift to Donny George...I don't how you got your name on their honorary board but I can guess. Narsai said he never heard of you...I told him, but did it in a fair way. Next thing I know I'm at the banquet and Donny George has no problems talking with me and accepting my sculpture, which I gave to him on my own behalf...and the vice-president of the AIDS society welcomed me warmly and later came over to ask me to join his table. So...why all the fuss?

...It is people like you who are desperate to marginalize me by pointing out I am "rude" and a "trouble-maker"...you're right..I make trouble for YOU. In any direct confrontation, where you couldn't escape..and using only words and ideas, I'd reduce you to tears. You know it.

...I imagine this is your last lecture. But it won't be enough. It will bother you no end if I am allowed to post my ideas here..this intrusion into your "little world" where everything is neat and polite and little will upset you terribly...you'll want to respond but know you can't...you'll get tired of lecturing me on politeness and then you'll just have to leave my posts unanswered, as if you really lived in a democracy..and this troubles you most of all becaue you KNOW if people read for themselves and think for themselves...many will soon begin to see the gaping holes in your ideas and theories...and that will kill you. For this reason you prevail on the moderators here to remove those posts which have nothing to do with you...because ANY idea you can't handle is seen as an "insult" and an affront to you.

Fred

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