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Farid:
"...you can believe that if it suits you. But there`s still no reason for an Assyrian to rename Ashur. I can see why a Jew would want to."

-Ashur was never renamed in the beginning. I don't care what happened later on since we know that everything that is instituted in this world ends up corrupted one way or another later on. I'm talking about intent and the way things originally were amongst believers (and I'm not referring to roman catholicism because you post extensively about their hypocrisy - I don't need to).

...since the majority of the Jews who had the benefit of seeing and hearing Jesus preach were unimpressed by his message, it would argue that no one else was much impressed hearing it second and third hand years later. The eastern church has its own mythology..or lies. It says that everywhere it went people converted...where? In China? In Japan? in India? There are a few Christians in these places..about what you`d get if a close knit bunch of converted Jews screwed each other only for 2000 years...the next lie is that there were really millions and millions BUT...those nasty Muslims killed them all...give us a break! They can find a lone grave...where are all those millions and millions of skeletal remains?


Yeshua simply means "life-giver" in our language and Msheekha means "the annointed one."

...and "restaurant" in our language simply means restaurant...it is a French word that`s entered the English language...it doesn`t make the Brits FRENCH. The Hebrews and Egyptians used Aramaic too...and Aramaic is the language of ARAM...not Assyria.

Adding some adjectives to the one and only God, or I should say Ashur isn't a big deal.

...Ashur is not and never was the ONE and ONLY God...not even yahwe says he is the ONLY god. Ashur was god when there were MANY gods and respect was shown to them ALL...there are STILL many gods, only we donīt respect them all because we this mindless fetish, born of being crowded into empires where ONE ruler ruled over several people he never heard of or saw, of insisting there MUST be only one god...there are MANY gods today..alive and doing well...and that is as it SHOULD be...a god, to be real MUST grow from the experience of his followers..it is simply arrogance and a devotion to brutal force to say there must be ONE god...why must there be?

...Monotheism has made people murderously intolerant..that is the only gift it has given us..it was implemented by Tyrants who insisted on their RIGHT to rule over the lives of strangers...to force THEIR ways on everyone...Christianity has KILLED the natural spirituality of millions of people round the world..reducing them to caricatures of their former selves while halting their natural progression.

He has dozens of adjectives in our language which some misguided people call "gods." Those adjectives you are very familiar with and they includes "Tammuz," "Marduk," etc.

.it is easy, as well as the height of hypocrisy, to call everyone who doesn`t agree with you "misguided"...just because someone does not agree with YOU does not mean they are wrong...this thinking of yours is similar to what an emperor would think...and it was emperors who spread Christianity.

That's in our culture. Islam took many words we used for Him and included them in their "99 Names of Allah." Jews also have several names for him. So do whites/westerners. Japs call him Nushi. Most of those "names" are really just adjectives for the one God/Ashur.

...since the people who HAVE all those names would disagree with you...let it slide...this proves nothing..it is only more of your attempt to foist your beliefs on others...YOU are saying THEY have "different" names for ONE god..they donīt see it that way...they certainly wouldnīt accept your notion that what they`re really praying to is Ashur...this is YOUR fetish..and like I said, momotheisn has made YOU murderously certain that YOU have the truth...let people have their own gods...stop renaming them...with whatever language. We also have a word for garbage in our language..granted it isn`t the SAME word in every language, but it means GARBAGE...which is exactly what this "argument" of your`s amounts to...everything that is a truth JUST happens to come out of YOUR mouth. What a fortunate coincidence for you!


So you're opposed to including the adjectives "Yeshua/Eshoa" and "Msheekha" which are from our language (among many others) but not all the other adjectives we used for Ashur, especially the 10 Attributes from the Tree of Life which are also from our language (albeit an earlier dialect)?

...I`m opposed to the notion that your sense of god has to be that of other people...if anything is clear in the world today it is that there are MANY gods. YOU can deicde they are all Ashur if you want to...but it`s a litle silly of you to present that as some sort of revelation. Everone believes his shit don`t stink...you go a step further and say your`s is whipped cream.

It's all the same thing. But if you want to say "no they ripped it off of us, it was ours first" well I'm all with your there my brother.

..it is NOT the same thing...you can mash all sorts of separate dishes and eat them as if they are THE SAME THING...I choose to respect all the cooks and taste them one at a TIME and savor the DIFFERENCES...I`d make a better guest at the feast of Life than you would.

Farid:
"..sorry...Jesus said himself he was the Jew Messiah...Jews in his day followed him BECAUSE they believed he was the promised Messiah...the religion was started because Jews believed in THEIR religion..not because they believed in Ashur. If you need to do this in order to feel better about your loyalty to a jewish religion, go ahead. The question that still won`t go away is why you think you NEED to. Why does the Jewish Messiah have to intervene in any shape or form for you before youīll believe in your OWN culture and history?"

-Their religion, in your own words, is a rip off of ours.

...in those legends we recognize as having been ours first, yes...my point to that effect was that while there is the story of Napishtim before Noah..plus others..there is NO mention of a Messiah in our religion...none whatsoever...just because the Hebrews AND the Assyrians spoke the language of ARAM does NOT make "messiah" a RELIGIOUS concept among the Assyrians!!!

...you are good at sophistry....all your tribe are...that is...you are good at SEEMING wisdom. No doubt you have the capacity to go all the way, but not till you stop expending energy on such trifles and concentrate your mental power...till then you`re stradling two concepts which are in grave contradiction...

If they called and STILL call him Ashur (among several other names/adjectives/whatever) then they must still believe in Ashur. However, if you want to say their religion has deviated for their own purposes, you're correct. Regardless, that's besides my point.

...then it`s besides it for me as well.

I would and do believe in my own culture w/ or w/o Yeshua. Yeshua doesn't tell me to renounce my Assyrianism; individuals who preach in his name might do that, but he never did.

...like most Hebrews he was woefully ignorant of the world outside his borders. Besides which...you have no way of knowing WHAT he said. I`ll bet you`ve spent more hours going over what`s in the bible..a book written by NONE of the people mentioned in it...but rather written down by the docks in Alexandria by some Jews a couple of hundred years later...or others who never met or knew or heard the voice of the people THEY told you said this and that...it`s interesting how many of you pour over that compilation of butcheries and nonsense but IGNORE the thouands of tablets written by OUR PEOPLE in their OWN hand!!! All over the world in museums and vaults the words of our OWN people have been locked away...not words written by someone else 300 years AFTER the event...does this square with your contention that Ashur and Jesus are one? You don`t even know what Jesus said but are SO hot to believe what other`s tell you...while at the same time you have NO interest in what Assyrians ACTUALLY said. Go...and sin no more.

Side Note - Your analogies are hilarious (e.g. caviar vs. peanut butter). Thank you for the laughs. I am glad you have a sense of humor. And by the way, that one sculpture you did of Inanna/Ishtar (I forget)...it's got some hips man; you gave it that coke bottle figure you know?

...but since coke is a drink and the Assyrians drank...Coke is Assyrian, right?

Farid:
"..what else did they have to do? They were the Keystone Cops of the ancient world...so inept they could do nothing but offer themselves as slaves to Pharoah, when they weren`t laboring for someone else...they created a fable of their own...to keep up with the advanced cultures surrounding them...people have written all sorts of things."

-Actually, new studies have revealed they were never enslaved and that that was another way for them to use events to their advantage.

...Gee...I wonder who wrote the "new studies"?

New studies show they were paid and paid well for the work they did.

..when you come up with a source that contradicts the bible...which says they were SLAVES...you should cite it...or is your word good enough for everything?


Maybe I should write a history showing how people that work for the US govt as landscapers and things of the sort are really slaves so their children can benefit through things like affirmative action or reparation acts.

...maybe you should...maybe you should do anything and everything but accept the simple truth that the reason the Assyrians never had the concept of a Messiah or Savior was because they didn`t NEED salvation. That the Hebrew people, who NATURALLY evolved such a concept from their miserable EXPERIENCE of Life, DID need salvation and needed it badly..and that the only time "Assyrians" needed a Messiah was when they became as DECREPIT as the Hebrews were.

Farid:
"...dear fellow...your wires are badly crossed. Did you REALLY follow what you just wrote? How do you know Hebrews crossed a river? Who said they were Assyrians? Why do you need to ASSUME so many things? Who said crossing a river makes you a diferent people? I fear me neither you nor I nor anyone knows what it is to be Assyrian in a modern context...all you`ve done is call being Christian "Assyrian". That won`t do."

-What did they cross then, an ant hill? The only thing between Assyria and that desert called Israel/Palestine is the Euphrates.

...and the only thing between Mexico and The United States is that river called the Rio Grande...do YOU see any significant difference between the two shores?


And if they lived on our side...then what would they have been? Clue: Arabs didn't inhabit Assyria at the time and Aryans had not yet inhabited what are now called Iran and India (which occurred during the Aryan invasion...many years after the Hebrew migration). Maybe there was a special group of aliens there that I don't know about and they left Assyria...maybe that's why the Jews got everything on lock.

...the Jews got NOTHING on lock...they have been driven from pillar to post since the beginning...the most abused people in the WORLD and at no time more so than when the Christians took off after them..and finally caught them 60 years ago.

...Abraham and his tribe were perverts...plain and simple. Abraham sold his wife to gain favors and Lot raped his daughters after getting drunk..which was AFTER he stranded his wife in the dessert so he could get his filthy hands on her daughters. They USED to be on one side of that river...till we threw them out to go inspire the Hebrews.

Also, I didn't say crossing a river makes you different. You implied that by referring to them as a different people. And I don't call being Christian "Assyrian." I have no problems with any Assyrians who are Christians, Jews, or Muslims...or atheists.

..would you have a problem with a Christian being a Muslim? If you are a monotheist you can`t be Assyrian AND Christian...that`s TWO gods...you have to choose.

Some of my friends were Muslims, some were Black Muslims (5 Percenters), and now in Cali I occasionally chill with some Lebanese Muslims I know through a Lebanese Christian (who is not of my same sect). Another example: I don't have problems with those Shiites in southern Assyria (now called Iraq) that call themselves Assyrians. I'm not a hater. I can't stop people from believing whatever they want to believe. I'll live my life and if they wanna like it or accept my beliefs, cool; if not then that's alright, too.

..that`s very wise of you.

Farid:
"...and I say you have no basis for any of this except that you NEED it to be true. There is nothing impressive about Jesus...there have been many more dedicated and creative and more impressive people than Jesus, before and after. I defy you to tell me what his "message" was...go on. No one...not a single Christian who, like you, goes on and on about what a marvel Jesus was and the brilliant and never heard before things he had to say and his magnificent example has been able to tell me WHAT it is. Now remember...I am asking for what is UNIQUE about Jesus...that is PROVEABLE...every religion on earth has claimed magical powers for THEIR head voodoo figure.

Tell me...what did Jesus mean and what did he stand for? Since you feel you know him intimately it should be no problem for you."

-Well, I wasn't going to but since you've asked and since you've been respectful to me personally, I'll tell you what it is FOR ME.

..how come Jesus has a personal message for YOU...what happened to Ashur...has he nothing to tell you...except to listen to Jesus?


In your previous message, you referred to the poison that churches inject people with and turn around and offer them a "cure" the next day. I'm not saying you're wrong. But there is a difference between what was/what was supposed to be (i.e. the ideal) and what is now (and for many many thousands of years in all faiths AND governments has) occurring. I asked you what do you say to the fact that people are healed. Now again, I will say that maybe you are of the belief that science could explain these things but has not yet advanced to that stage in this society and it is really the person himself that just heals himself. If you are then me telling you this is pointless. But if you aren't, then there's something here we're not seeing. My mother doesn't attend church regularly because she can't (conditions are bad, cold weather, lack of seating, her health, etc). She's not "indoctrinated" as you would refer to it. However, she was healed. And for that I am thankful. She was told to put her hand where she suffered and in the name of Yeshua it would be healed. Now I'm not saying you need to believe this, but you asked what was so special to me and now I'm telling you. At least be respectful to that even if you don't believe in such things as I am sure you would be as happy as I am if the same happened with your mother.

...my mother has cancer...right now. I thank her doctors for treating her and I would DAMN an all powerful god for giving her the cancer....if I had the power to heal I wouldn`t walk into a ward at a children`s hospital and heal ONE child out of thirty...I`d heal them ALL and I`d blast cancer off the face of the earth. A son of mine also had cancer and his pious grandmother dared say, in my presence, "praise to god for curing him"...at which I said back to her, "you can thank the DOCTORS for healing him..and DAMN god for sending us cancer"! We never got along.

...doctors don`t have the power to invent cancers...if they found they`d done so inadvertantly, they`d rush to stop the damage.,..but not God...he invented all these plagues and THEN wants the praise when a doctor fights HIM to kill a cancer. This is childish stuff. There are many things I can`t explain...if everyone who touched themselves would be healed as your mother was...who WOULDN`T do it? There are many unexplained things in Life...as there were 20,000 years ago..and the people back THEN chose to believe in spirits and demons who healed some and ignored others...but this isn`t 20,000 years ago and I`m NOT a Hottentot! Although we still can`t explain much, we know BETTER than to dance around a totem pole howling at the moon.

Farid:
"..no one can do that without lying to you. Who says they`re messed up? If they are then we have made the mess...I don`t kill my children when they turn out in ways I don`t like...I take myself to task. Ashur didn`t fail us...we have failed ourselves...you`re half ready to accept responsibility for yourself..but still half looking for someone to blame or who will "make sense" of things for you..and anyone who offers to do so is lying to you...you have to make your OWN sense of your OWN self. The universe is centered in you...in each of us...no wandering Jew has any answer for anyone....and neither would an Assyrian try to answer these questions for someone else. I found mine...go and find your`s."

EXACTLY. YOU found YOURS, and I found MINE.

..and your`s is that of a Jew and mine is that of an Assyrian. It is YOUR religion that roams the world telling people it is the ONLY true one...Assyrians never did that...religion has degenerated since then, it`s become a tool of imperialism and absolutism...the Assyrians were NEVER like that. When they conquered, they made room for all new gods..they knew how to respect people and their own cutlures and gods especially.


I only initiated this conversation to (1) make friends, (2) see how you think, and (3) implore you hopefully not to say things like "F so and so," when referring to central figures in people's beliefs.

...these words are used by Christians all the time..usually when refering to the people from OUR part of the world.


I don't go and curse popes, mullahs, Muhammad, Ahura Mazda, Buddha, and whoever else even though I don't have any particular affinity or association with those figures. I personally don't care how you believe. It doesn't pay me any more or any less. I'm happy you're a person who feels like he can make decisions on his own and doesn't need some "leaders" to indoctrinate him.

...it`s just language...

Farid:
"...because we got tired...all people do eventually. We civilized half the world...we needed a rest. The Jews also lost their`s...the Apaches lost their`s...so what."

-Farid, come on man. You can do better than that. That was a terrible excuse? We got tired? Thousands of years and suddenly out of no where we just got tired?

...exactly...every family burns out in time...every empire peaks and then slides back...there is no longer a Spanish Empire..or Roman Empire or British Empire...this is normal. No People can carry the entire burden for long.

No group of people in their right mind would let go of something that great after so many years.

..they didn`t let go...it was taken from them because they became complacent...and because the tribes surging at the borders of the civilized centers were ever growing..it`s been the pattern in history.

And even if they civilized the world just to civilize it and give it a gift and then withdraw, they wouldn't ALSO give up their own country.

..they didn`t. For whatever reason, most of them converted eventually to Ialam and built the NEXT great empire...the Islamic Empire centered in Baghdad...ten feet from Babylon and all the world away from Mecca....the Sumerians were once overcome by a dessert tribe...you may have heard of Sargon The Great...it happened all the time. The descendants of the Assyrians and others are still in Iraq...which is nothing more than Uruk..and they will survive this present set of barbarians too.

Farid:
"...Ashur doesn`t DO things for you...he doesn`t answer prayers...he`s there as a source of INSPIRATION..the rest is up to you. He isn`t someone you lean on..he doesn`t carry you...or fight for you...He just IS..."

-Whoa whoa whoa...what? Yea he does. What was the Akitu Festival then? That wasn't a Christian festival.

..they had many festivals.

The king would strip himself of all his royal symbols and ask Ashur for forgiveness of anything wrong he may have done to offend Ashur or any wrongs he may have done against the people. And the tear would determine whether or not he was true. Was that also a story fabricated by the Jews?

...emperors too would ask forgiveness of the gods...but the scapegoat IS a Jew story..and that`s all Jesus was...a human scapegoat. The Assyrians didn`t heap all their sins on some poor unoffending animal...or person and then drive that person out to die, or crucify him..and then go back to sinning!!! The Assyrian king TOOK responsibility for his errors...he didn`t pin them on a child and then kill it.


Come on Farid. Oh and he just IS, huh? That sounds very JEWISH to me. Don't Hebrews say that? Yea, one of his names is "Yehowah." He sure IS, isn't he? Furthermore, what's the point of God/Ashur if he does nothing for me and I don't need to do anything for him? I might as well go and serve a statue...or some wall...or maybe a pizza since that actually does something for me and my stomach.

..I think you`re looking for a job...not anything spiritual...you`re dying to serve someone..and you want to be rewarded for it...the deed is it`s own reward...didn`t they teach you that in synagogue?

Farid:
"...who says he did? He was not one to drown his people and all innocent animals because they displeased Him...if they displeased him he knew they were far more displeasing to themselves..."

The question was rhetorical. I say Ashur does care for us but as for leaving us to fall, I say He did and so does history.

...it says no such thing...people invent gods..not the other way around. Man created god in HIS image..anything else is a gross insult to the deity..you can thank Twain for that. The Assyrians CREATED their god, not the other way around...Ashur grew out of US...That`s why he inspired us so. It`s the way with EVERY god...that`s why it`s so wrong to impose a foreign god on a People..you kill their spirit...you kill their imagination..you kill their inspiration...but you get better subjects.


I don't care about what "state religion" exists in the Assyrian homeland right now...that's not my focus. My focus is on the "state ethnicity" - ARAB. They already had their homeland.

...dear fellow...Arabs are from Arabia. There are Egyptians in Egypt...Ethiopians in Ethiopia...and Arabs are in Arabia. If you`re going to give me the tired old argument that since Islam was born in Arabia, ANY Muslim anywhere in the world must be an ARAB...then I`ll tell you any Christian anywhere in the world is an ISRAELI...because Christianity was born in Israel...does that make any sense to you?

...very few Arabs came out of Arabia to conquer BetNahrain..and there were Arabs already there who were NOT Muslim...the majority of Muslims in later years were converts to Islam....for Islam is much closer to the Assyrian experience than Christianity is....when Assyrians saw the conquering Muslim army they saw something they KNEW and felt comfortable with..to get back on horseback, grab a sword and go conquer and create another empire...whereas the Christians on their knees eating dust must have been a strange sight indeed.

What?...we couldn't have ours? And then they go and attribute every damn thing we did to themselves.

...they don`t, Iraq has NEVER denied its Assyrian roots...NEVER. You`re just angry because they ALSO attribute the last 1400 years and the magnificent empire and culture they built to their inspiration under MUHAMMAD..this is what drives you Christians crazy...yet you don`t mind at all when Sargon the Great or Hammurabi rides out of the dessert and conquers our homeland..and mixes his blood and beliefs ands makes something even greater...Assyria as an empire even, didn`t die in 600 BC...it took a long break...as had happened before in dark times...and re-emerged with the advent of a youthful new faith ALSO from the dessert, brought by a vigorous and energetic new people, ALSO from the dessert...the SAME desserts Sargon and Hammurabi came from...and the greatest civilization of the Medeival World was born...and took Assyrian and Persian and Babylonian art and culture and science and technology all across Europe to Spain..from which it eventually spread to the savage Christians of Europe AND was taken across the sea by the Spaniards...who had 700 years worth of Arab/Mesopotamian blood and culture in their veins, to the New World.

Assyria didn`t die and it isn`t dead in Iraq now...Iraq, Uruk, BetNahrain is fighting for it`s LIFE against the same Christianity that has been the greatest scourge the world has EVER seen! And we shall win again.

And then they have the nerve to use that old parable in Arabic, "Don't tell me what your father did, but what you have done." No...there is a reason for all that has happened. And the story about the flood...come on. That was from the Epic of Creation which was Assyrian. A flood did happen and the fossil record/archaeological record shows that at several points in history, the earth was either almost fully covered with water or partly covered with water so a "flood" did happen. I'm not saying the Jews described it the way it really was, but then again most of those stories are really rip-offs of other parables and figurative/metaphorical stories.

...of course it happened...those two rivers ALWAYS flood...so does the Nile. The pissant Jordan..which is hardly a "river"...couldn`t flood if every Hebrew pissed in it at the same time!

Farid:
[i]"...our god left us here to make the best of it we could..he promised us no miracles...he offered us no threats...we can take him or leave him...no hard feelings...there is no REWARD for believing in Ashur...you do it because it is the RIGHT thing to do...though you won`t be able to prove it to anyone...but you`ll know...and that`s the whole point."

-Again, what was the Akitu Festival. Ashur did care whether or not we served him. What about the ancient Assyrian belief concerning the eclipses? There were rewards and punishments.

...Look..if you choose to believe that things must remaiun the way they were 2000 and 5000 years ago...okay. But I`ll bet you don`t want to operated on with the same instruments they used in the time of Jesus...Ashur evolves WITH us...he is not FIXED...neither are we. That was then...we have GROWN since then...you ALL insist the god of the Old Testicles morphed into a cozy fellow in the New Testicles...how come you don`t want THAT butcher reminaing "timeless"?

And you are correct, you won't be able to prove it to anyone. That's why I said earlier that you have found yours and I have found mine. Again, one of my reasons for initiating the conversation was to ask if you could respect other peoples' beliefs, just like I respect those of other religions and those of yours.

..I respect your beliefs...I just respect the human mind MORE. There is hope for you...

I have my reasons for believing what I believe and you must at least slightly understand that someone seeing their mother healed is not something one can just throw away.

...I am seeing my mother healed...I saw my son healed...BUT...I have seen MILLIONS killed for no good reason...let your god take credit for all of THEM too...and I`ll give him credit for your mother.

..if, every time you see something YOU can`t explian rationally on your road through Life, you fall down to your knees and worship a god...you`re not going to get very far. You should have fallen to your knees at the sight of a blade of grass glowing green in the sun...and never moved since.

Farid:
"..it isn`t up to him..it`s up to us. We don`t NEED to build Assyria again...the world is ours. The ancients didn`t STAY in Assyria...they took their gifts to the WORLD..."

-Since you asked earlier, I will answer with my opinion and that is that it is up to both of us (Ashur and us). And why not build Assyria again?

...because you`re going to have to kill a whole new bunch of people to do it...empires and even countries are old hat...what is an ethnicity worth any more? Who can even define it? There was a time when building empires and even countries out of city-states was necessary or there could be no progress...but those sorts of individulaized feelings of identity will DESTROY peace and civilization today..the ancient Assyrians were never bounded by Betnahrain...they learned from everyone, everywhere and they went everywhere...the world is my Assyria...we were at the forefornt then...this attitude will keep there..it is most BACKWARD for us to start running after a country and border now...that`s way too old fashioned for an Assyrian...we were always progressive and today nationality is REGRESSIVE.


Why should I have to worry about whether or not my grandchildren and their children and so on will retain our traditions and speak our language and eat our food?

...you don`t have to worry about...go ahead and teach them...who`s stopping you? Christians in Iraq were free to do anything anyone else was...except for the one thing that is illegal everywhere, in America too...and that is, to preach SEDITION..to call the present government of ANY country on earth "illegitimate" or "usurpers" or "illegal" or "immoral"...is to invite retaliation...to preach that a country really belongs to YOU..or any part of it belongs to ANY minority..is a crime EVERYWHERE...short of that, Christians have always been welcome and free in Iraq...

You're correct about us taking our gifts to the world but we also didn't abandon the idea of a country. An ancient Assyrian (not Christian or Jew or anything else) proverb says:

"A God dwells in a Temple
A King lives in a Palace
A Man lives in a House
A Man without a House is not a Man.
A Man without a Nation is the same as a Nation without a Man."

..they also said, "swallow two crocodiles and call me in the morning"...times change. Today we`re in increasing danger of losing our planet...a person has to have a planet FIRST..before he can have a home to put it on.

I believe what I believe because I have the hope of an afterlife in which the ideal will be granted.

..and I ask you again...if it was up to YOU, personally...and you could have SAVED Jesus...but sacrificed YOUR right to an eternal life in doing so...remembering that he taught you the VALUE of self-sacrifice...would you sacrifice YOUR eternal life for the life of Jesus? You really should try to answer all points put to you and not cherry pick..we have sharp readers..they notice.

You might have found the way to live an excellent life with no worries and you might not care about a homeland, that's great - I really am happy for you.

..I worry a great deal for my homeland...for IRAQ...and for ALL the people. We already HAVE a country..and like most it has several people pulling in all sorts of directions...an Assyria would be a madhouse...a Fascist State of the worst kind filled with whacky notions of PURE BLOOD and TRUE RELIGION with people being damned and banned and deleted and thrown out left and right. We have Iraq...let`s cherish it.

But I don't have that. And if I have seen healing and have the promise of an afterlife of good, without the worries of death or hurt for anyone, I'll believe that. I wasn't going to tell you all of that, but you asked about it. I hope you will respect my reasons as I respect yours.


...I can respect what is Reasonable...it is NOT reasonable to me for someone to say he loves Jesus...and is GLAD he suffered and was KILLED (he didn`t just "die") for HIM...when I heard that as a kid I reacted in horror...what had someone seen in ME that made them think I would accept..or REJOICE at the idea of being given a great gift at SUCH a price? This is a religion of death, not Life..it is a religion of hatred where people confuse what they hate with Love...you have bundled murder and "life ever after" all together and it has distracted you beyond words...beyond rational words.

...here on earth..if someone tells you there is a GREAT GIFT for you...all you have to do is AGREE that an Innocent be killed for YOU..you will go to jail as an accesory to MURDER AFTER THE FACT...and yet YOU get Eternal Life for agreeing to have Jesus tortured and put to DEATH???....YOUR eternal life comes from the DEATH of an Innocent? No thank you...I won`t take a watch at that price...and you can keep an "eternity"...which sounds more like Hell than anyhting else...a place where you can contemplate your infamy for having sought ANY advantage to you PERSONALLY from the death of a most sweet and innocent young Jew who never did a DAMN thing to you....PERSONALLY or otherwise.

This sort of thing is a CRIME here on earth..it figures you`d be REWARDED for it in a Jew Heaven!


Happy Jew Year.

...and the same to you.



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