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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Tuesday, January 17 2006, 18:03:00 (CET) from 201.137.165.142 - dsl-201-137-165-142.prod-infinitum.com.mx Mexico - Windows XP - Internet Explorer Website: Website title:

P*o, When I read your recent post containing the following below, I realized you are so blinded by bigotry you were brainwashed in as a child that you don't realize that your own words say that Muslims in Iraq have mistreated Assyrian Christians, ..everyone evertywhere has mistreated everyone...I`ve said it often enough...but only Christians cooked and ate six million Jews and only Christians starve to death innocent children...I`ve asked you again and again to mention ONE such Muslim act in the last 100 years...and you can`t do it. and you even say that THE SYSTEM in Iraq is what screwed your grandfather and if you were the progressive guy that you pretend to be when it comes to Muslim rights and justice, ...nope...the SYSTEM in Iraq was such that the government opened its border to fleeing PERSIANS...running from Urmia...to the Iraqis my family were PERSIAN Christians...NOT "Assyrians"...that`s how decent the SYSTEM in Iraq was. ..there are jealous people everywhere...you certainly are one of them and your site is chock a block with envious creeps. There can be rapists waiting in a building...but when a Christian delñivers over another Christian to be raped...you can be excused for blaming the Christian traitor...we EXPECT there to be jealously and anger ACROSS religious lines...what we do NOT expect is that the same will exist IN THE SAME RELIGION...we can understand that a few Muslims would be hostile enough to leap at the chance to eliminate a Christian doctor who threatenmed their statues and self-importance...what strikes all as odd is that Christians, who have no OTHER Christian doctor...would be so low and unthinking as to turn in one of THEM...a man who fought for them and treated them and was respercted and admired by Muslims and Christians...a man whose dream was to have his sons become doctors and open a hospital for Assyrians...what we sadly see as the usual Christian treachery and surprises us is that Christians would cut their OWN wives tits off to spite their noses..or something like that. It is this fact, that Chrisatians attack EACH OTHER whenever there is the slightest chance that one of them will advance beyond THEM...and will go to such extremes as to hurt themselves into the bargain...this is what is striking about this incident...not that "Muslims are bad"...but that Christians are so much WORSE! ...and...when my grandfather returned with his SECOND degree and the envious Muslims and bastard Christians could find NO other way to stop him...the SYSTEM was open to him and he could practisemedicine..the SYSTEM didn`t go gunning for him...CHRISTIANS did...you slut. you would realize that one, you can't blame an entire people for what a few did as you do Christians in Iraq but yet you don't blame the system that was responsible both for their oppression, for your grandfather's having to retake exams you say, and even for the hate and bigotry that you got brainwashed in trying to fit in with Muslims and probably don't realize that your grandfather couldn't blame them fo ...you`re blabbering again...I answered you already... r it would put you all in danger, so he blamed the victims of worse oppression than he had, the Christians there... read your own words below... you admit it, but then you blame the victims... you paint the man as an uncle tom as a good thing, yet you paint assyrian americans as such as a bad thing.. you are inconsitant and hypocritical... you don't even realize your own words and I pity you... I wish you could see the truth as your own words betray it and I wish you well and peace. Here is what you wrote in a recent post: ...fuck your well and your peace. p*ho wrote: ...The may call themselves Arabs AFTER calling themselves Iraqis... I say >> so why do you say they are the true Assyrians when you yourself say they don't call themselves that... and you are the one hung up on names like God's name has to be Ashur to be an Assyrian, but you give that to those that call him Allah and themselves Arab.. I don't get you man. ...with a head like your`s you`re lucky you get milk. p*ho writes: ...not true...if you mean the majority of the Christians were pig ignorant... I say >> and if anyone says stuff like that about Arabs you yell discrimination, but you don't see that you do the same thing to Assyrian Christians. you are a hypocrite! ...yes but you ARE pig-ignorant...you and the rest whjo insist that being Christian MAKES you Assyrian...Muslims don`t say that..they are far wiser than you are...they accept their common Assyrian heritage..it`s just that they have that much MORE to be proud of...1400 years while you were scratching your arse in a village somewhere. p*o writes: ...Fortunately, for all of us, eventually...my grandfather was admired and trusted by Muslims and through contacts and influence received permission for his children to attend university... I say >> so you admit that there is dhimmi status and injustice finally since you have been denying that for so long... ...not at all...the treatment meted out to Christians AFTER their betrayal of those who took then is what GOT them their lowly status...had Iraq felt that way about them they NEVER would have opened their borders to "slaves"...they took us in and Feisal called us "brothers" and invited us to participate in the rebuilding of Iraq...it was only when Christians BETRAYED this trust and welcome...this hocpitality Christians didn`t show JEWS...it was after Christian TREACHERY that ALL Christian became suspect...and once again, it was by hard work...I mean HARD work...my grandfather was on call 24 hours a day...at a time when doctors made house calls..in THAT heat and under THOSE conditions...as I say, it was only after hard work that my grandfather won the turst and respect of a SYSTEM that had extended its hand to us BEFORE it knew a thing about us...that he was able to start rebuilding our position..so that we could have a hospital for Christians...and THAT was destroyed by Christians...not Muslims. Without the lies of Christians the Muslims who resented my grandfather could and would have done NOTHING. but here you make it sound like they did not allow anyone that didn't kiss up to them attend university and you had to have contacts and influence, ...you`re the kiss ass and dick licker...my grandfather kissed up to NO ONE...he WORKED for the respect that he won...which is something a smarmy slut like you wouldn`t understand. which most Christians did not have the power and influence your family did.. ...my family were refugess like every other family that ran from Urmia with a wagonload of what they could spirit away...they had no more status in Iraq than any other refugee family...my grandfather advanced by WORKING...you know? Work? do you hear yourself... that is the society you idolize and glorify and blame the oppressed people that you are saying were NOT ALLOWED to get education or professional jobs.. listen to yourself... some enlightened liberal you are.. hypocrite! ...it is purely the fault of the treacherous Christians that they made their own position worse than it had to be...just as they cost THEMSELVES a Christian Hospital..just as they deprived their families of a damn good CHRISTIAN doctor...Iraq took us IN...Iraq allowed my grandfather to work...Iraq allowed him to treat the Christian refugees...Iraq didn`t stop him from doing all of this....CHRISTIANS did!!!...just as you assholes have ALWAYS fucked yourselves over and afterwards tried to pin the blame on a Muslim for being "bad"...you idiot cunt...the Iraqis SAVED the Christian refugees..and saved them from OTHER MUSLIMS at that!!! p*o writes: ...thereby producing the FIRST few doctors we had...it was the Christians AGAIN, who betrayed us all by taking their envy, as GS would if he could, to those Muslims who were NOT enamored of a Christian`s success and advancement... I say >> so you admit that it was "Those Muslims who were not enamored" that did the damaged but you don't blame them ..it is to be expected that there will be envy and spite ACROSS cultural, national and religious lines..what we do NOT expect is that the SAME people will betray their OWN!!! but you blame the Christians who you later said were only a few who made those accusations which sound like you are saying that they accused him of not getting a proper medical degree.. but blame the system if it was lies and he was hurt by it for what kind of a legal system lets a few lies destroy a career but you blame an entire people for a few liars you claim and not the system that did not give him due process... ...there is a man, one at least, waiting to rape you...but he is far away and unable to get to you...but I trick you and drive you to his house where he rapes you...and I walk away saying "rapists are just like that"...and go to church and feelgoodaboutmyself...right? do you see where your brainwashing makes you pathologically blame christians for the wrongs muslims do... ...Muslims didn`t do the wrong...not in Iraq...Muslims of Iraq did the RIGHT thing by taking us in to begin with...they were under no obligation to do so...they did it because it was the right and humane thing to do...no doubt there were Muslims of the same mental capacity and meanspirit as you have who were against allowing Christian into Iraq..and it was THOSE Muslims the CHRISTIANS went to to stop my grandafther and turn their wives cunts over to Muslim doctors...Muslims did the right thing...Christians betrayed my grandfather and later the entire country...if there was anything such as "dhimmi" status in Iraq the SYSTEM would NEVER have invited in more slaves...I think you are a dhimmwit! and you said something about there being government restrictions on doctors fees, and then you blame the christians who you yourself say were dirt poor, not allowed to get education or decent jobs due to bias, for not being able to afford it but you don't blame the system ...you can`t speak...you can`t think...you can`t read..all you can do is hate and call it love and peace...the government HOSPITAL allowed people to receive medical treatment for free...or for very little...my grandfather took chickens and peas for pay as long as he could...doubtless you would like ALL Asdsyrians to remain humble and dirt poor....but my gradfather had ten children to feed and wanted a proper clinic...in that part of the world doctors never became rich...he wanted his own hospital for Christians...and no one was going to build it for him...there was nothign wrong with the system...my grandfather NEVER turned away anyone for not having money..it was just that Christian such as you are cheap bastards and don`t feel they should EVER pay another Christian for anything...they want it PREE...because "we are Assyrians"...ask any Assyrian carpenter, bricklayer, lawyer etc if they want ANY Assyrian customer...you stupid bitch. that kept them uneducated in poverty or that put the restrictions on his medical career for they would not let a christian be a doctor to a muslim... but that doesn't bother you... do you see the sickness in that kind of bias you spew? ..they did no such thing...when he told them he was a doctor he had no medical degree handy to prove it...they lost everything...remember? Yet they trusted him and probably only allowed him to work on other refugees...by watching him they realized that the man was not only a doctor but a damn fine one..he STILL had no degree, no papers to prove his claim when Muslims started going to him in increasing numbers...they STILL trusted him and allowed him to go on practising..it was only when CHRISTIANS created a PRETEXT that he was stopped..and you can bet there were more sad Muslim patients than there were Christian ones...UNTIL they had to bend over for a Muslim doctor..then it hit them...right up the ARSE! p*o wrote: ...and told authorities my grandfather was a LIAR...that he had NEVER completed medical school..this gave the envious Muslim officials, like GS, the excuse to recind his privileges and he was told he could no longer practise medicine in Iraq..that`s right...CHRISTIANS did that...filled with envy and pettiness...as GS is. And the joy of it all was that from then on, it was a MUSLIM doctor who stuck his finger up the Christian women AND men´s BUTTS!" I say >> read what you wrote.. you sayd the envious muslim officials did this, they had the power to revoke medical practice, they did the wrong of not investigating if it was indeed a lie or truth, ...there was no way t0o investigate anything...the college and all records in Urmia had been burnt. and then you say it was the Christians that did it, even though your previous sentences said the Muslims did it.. ...Muslims did nothing but what Christians FORCED them to do....the Muslims must have thought, "surely this man must NOT have a license, no matter how talented because SURELY his own people would not LIE to get one of their OWN fired from a position that benefits THEM most of all"? The pure basness and treachery of Christians...something NO ONE else can fathom...must have convinced the Muslims that their lie MUST be true...stop and think a little, slut...if the Christian refugees had access to a Christian doctor...even if he DIDN`T have a degree on hand...but was OBVIOUSLY more and better qualified than the Muslim doctors..and moreover JUST because he WAS a Christian and known to them...would ANY decent and normal human being EVER think they would LIE about him and wind up costing THEMSELVES and their "dear" children and wives his services? Do you see how YOU would have been one those to tutn him in? you have some pathological need to blame Christians for their victimhood and even when your grandfather as a christian became a victim of an injustice system, you don't blame the islamic system ..the Islamic ssyetn allowed him and the rest of the Christians into the country..the system allowed him to practise medicine WITHOUT showing a license and degree...and when he was forced to get his degree all over again by the treachery of Christians..it welcomed him BACK!!! that did that but the other christian victims of it.. I don't get you man... you are so intelligent but when it comes to this stuff, you don't even see that your own words betray your illogic and distortions and bias against christians and for muslims at all extremes... ....you are the biased cunt blinded by your doofus religion. please just listen and read your own words... smart people can change and get past their brainwashing and hate and find ways to see the world anew. ...you aren`t that smart...you`re you forever, no matter how many times you change personalities. And then you get joy out of seeing the rest of the christians get screwed as if it was them that screwed your grandfather but your own accounts says that it was the muslim system that screwed him... ...you are an idiot....you are so desperate to blame Muslims that you ignore everything staring you in the face and latch onto what you think proves your bias and hatred...when the facts are just the opposite...the Muslims of Iraq SAVED the Christian refugees...the Muslim systen didn`t say to my grandfather..."sorry, no license...no medical school records...you can`t treat anyone...go over there and break rocks for roads"...instead it TRUSTED and allowed him to minister to HIS PEOPLE...they only acted when CHRISTIANS did the unthinkable...robbed THEMSELVES their ONE Christian doctor out of mean and blind spite...like you are racked with. a few people say something untrue doesn't condemn an entire people as you do, but a system that is set up to be unfair to people like your grandfather based on religion is to be blamed.. ...the Muslim system was MORE than fair...it even gave him a job in a MUSLIM hospital..without asking to see any documents from him...in every instance the Muslim Systen acted with exemplary fairness and humanity..it was Christians who forced its hand...a hand it once again extended when those Christians had been silenced...when my grandfather returned with his SECOND degree...got in a foreign language in a foreign country, away from his wife and children for two years!....it wasn`t Muslims who sent him..at the age of 50...to get another medical degree...it was CHRISTIANS...and when he returned...he resumed his practise with all the priveleges he`d had before from the Muslim System...... you keep blaming and insulting christians in iraq for not being educated and not having professional jobs but you don't blame the system that you yourself says wouldn't let them... ...the system extended an open hand to them...Muslims are well known for their hospitality and generosity...even an enemy..even a blood enemy must be sheltered and protected if he winds up on your doorstep..this is the Islamic way...such treachery as the Christians displayed, not only towards my grandfather but towards the country as a whole when they whored themselves out to the British for the SECOND time, was of so unfathomable a degree to a Muslim that they determined it was best never to trust such people again...unless those people went on to EARN trust...as my grandfather did....and my father too...who became the head of the Health Department for the country of Kuwait...a CHRISTIAN attaining that position because he EARNED it...as Dr. Donny George EARNED his position in Muslim Iraq...what you and GS and the rest want is to be given advancement and preference BECAUSE you are Christian...beyond that you don`t feel you ever need do anything...and when you get EXACTLY what you deserve...when you are treated to the status you DESERVE. you start hollaring about DHIMMI and "we are being kept DOWN and denied JOBS"...GS believes that changing tires in church is all he needs do to become head of the Health Department of the World. would you blame african american slaves for their slavery or the injustices done under Jim Crowe laws prior to the civil rights movement.. of course not, but that is equivalent to what you do to the Christian underdogs in Iraq... ...not at all the same thing...you rag. Africans were DRAGGED to America in chains by Christians...I blame the CHRISTIANS...the refugees from Iran were WELCOMED into Iraq and they were allowed to work and live and even be doctors..I blame the CHRISTIANS once again for betraying their OWN and the country that welcomed them! you are blinded by hate and brainwashing, maybe that was needed to fit in and get power and influence and education as a Christian in that system as you always brag... you had to hate and betray your own people and kiss up to the Masters... but you don't even see that is what it sounds like... but that is what it sounds like to me. I hope you see it and clear your mind and heart from all this bias and hate. ...you are an idiot and worse....if I EVER make sense to you I`ll shoot myself. p*o writes: ...he was the ONLY Christian doctor the refugees had...at the hospital he accepted whatever people had to pay with...plus rates were fixed by the government...some years later, with ten children to support, he finally managed to open a private clinic...rather, he DARED to open a private clinic....for that`s when the Christians got out their long knives...they accused him of wanting to "make money"....they`d become accustomed to the government paying their way...had "set himself above them" drove them to lie to the authorities, to "cut him down to size" and "keep us humble"... I say >> I have read your condescending snobbing insulting degrading comments about Christians and do you think maybe if that is how your family treated them as you brag they did, then of course they are not going to want him to charge them more than the system allowed and they could afford being oppressed in that system as you yourself brag about. ...my family continued to do good to Christians despite their personal experience...they just never allowed any Christian to get close to their children again. My father found work for lots of Assyrians who came to Kuwait seeking his influence...he was personal physician to the Sabah family, who produced the last three Emirs of Kuwait...and they were all grateful to him...BUT...they ALL had to stand outside, in the garden, when first coming to ask his help...later, when some had PROVEN themselves, they became personal friends. p*o writes: ..is as fine an example of all that is wrong with Christians claiming to be Assyrians as I`ve been fortunate to find...I use him acordingly. I say >> you use people and think that one person and their words and sometimes your lies to distort their words reflects on all christians and justifies injustices done to them, and that is sick and not healthy and not justice and if only you could see why that is wrong... I wish you would. ...you Christians are the greatest criminals and purveyors of violence the world has ever seen..it`s all there in the record..if it`s unpleasant talk to your god...somewhere you`ll find him getting people killed. p*o wrote: ...if you`ll remember Hitler, in the end, was the worst enemy the German people EVER had...that`s the future Bush and you Christians are preparing for the United States...and I`ll do all I can to thwart the next planned Holocaust brought to the people of this earth by Christians...YOU tell us all the "bad" things Muslims have done...I`m busy. I say >> you yourself say the bad things Muslims do.. you don't think it bad to say people can't get university education or work in certain jobs or be doctors to people of their religion or others based on their religion... ...my grandfather was a Christian refugee whom Iraq took in..and without any proof of formal training or a license they allowed him to minister to his own people...who needed a doctor badly...they then came to trust him so much they went to him themselves, prefering him over their own Muslim doctors..and ALL of this occured WITHOUT any degree or papers...such was my grandfather and SUCH were the Muslims of Iraq..it was only when the CHRISTIANS lied about him that the few envious Muslims had what they needed...but at every step along the way Muslims acted the decent and humane part...no one was prepared for the depth of Christian perfidy...it was YOUR behavior which convinced Muslims they may have been mistaken in taking any of us in...and that forced them to conclude it were best to keep you in the lowly status YOU showed them you were best suited for....but through hard work and talent SOME Christians undid the damage done to us all by Christians...till later and later more and more Christians proved themselves and things opened up for ALL of us...after the first set back by those despicable Christians...the kind STILL with us in far too great numbers. the hate you seed on your forum worries me and I wish a smart talented man like you could wake up and realize you are in a destructive obsessive loop.. let it go.. the system and the times and a few jerks hurt your grandfather and maybe you, but that same system and times hurt far less fortunate assyrians far more than you and him... ...fuck you and your love. let it go and try to stop the real next holocaust which you know darn well is not going to be against the billion muslims but might just be against the few christians left in the middle east... ...get fucked...the few dead Christians got that way because ONCE AGAIN they collaborated!!! Muslims have been killed for the same collaboration...the other Christians killed..the far GREATER numbers, have been killed by CHRISTIANS...only you call them "casualties of war"...you smarmy twat. and your distortions and hate and lies and taunts of them and your being "busy" using your forum to convince those that can undermine and hurt them from the inside or from the outside is contributing.. please stop.. use your voice for good for BOTH sides... please... ...I keep telling you to GET FUCKED,...what more good can I do you? let go of the past and see things clearly.. even your own words even when you twist, you can see the truth and see where you are twisting, distorting and sometimes lying... it is never too late to grow and change and forgive especially when we have children for we do it for them and not for ourselves... we try to make a more peaceful world with less hate and understand our own biases and brainwashing and use our intellect to overcome that and everyone knows they don't come much smarter than you... ...this is the same bitch who, when she feels like, is spewing filth from all ten corners of her mouths.... so use that to overcome this sillyness.. you can still stand up for the Arab world and bias against them, but don't be so blind to the bias against Assyrian christians there and the dangers they are in.. use your influence on both sides to bring peace and not hate... please! And realize that we need democracies like America and stop undermining her and the middle east needs democracy too for if not, even their Muslim sects will one day destroy each other as well as other religions living there, and what about the 50% of their population, women living in injustice... only democracy can help them so stop sticking up for autocratic, tyrannies and theocracies and please use your power to spread the democracy that you enjoy and have given you the education to be as well read as you obviously are... I so want to be able to respect you but I can't when you talk this trash, when you lie and distort to hurt people, undermine, smear and destroy, when you have hypocritical biased hate and one sided blindness but I think you are capable of overcoming that... and maybe if someone like you does, you can help those you complain are the same way to arab muslims as you are to assyrian chiristans to change too... and if you let go of whatever hurt you so bad that you hate so much, so blindly, so twistedly and so be able to lie and hurt the way you do, especially they way you blanket an entire people with bias and distortions and the way you USE individuals to lie and smear and twist to use them as a tool to make chiristans look bad... it is so beneath a man of your intellect and talent.. rise above these things and... please stop for all our sakes. Peace. ...like I said...go get hanged...then get fucked...but whatever you do....JUMP! --------------------- - BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

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