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Bet-Nahrain Forum THE ROAD TO ASSYRIAN AUTHONOMY IN IRAQ Posted By: Ashur Giwargis (195.69.210.1) Date: Monday, 15 May 2006, at 1:19 p.m. The Road to Assyrian Autonomy in Iraq Part I Sargon Sapper Illinois Our ancient Assyrian nation was unmatched with pride and loyalty. ..it wasn`t "yours". You had nothing to do with it and it has nothing to do with you. It remarkably served civilization by providing humanity with a wide spectrum of culture, science and technological invention. It is now nearly 26 centuries since enemies of our nation gathered momentum and ultimately succeeded in defeating the Assyrian empire. ...you are not an Assyrian. You are a Christian from whatever MidEastern country your family came from. Surprisingly, from an Assyrian point of view, very little information is available regarding the events of this period. We continue to assume that our nation was, prior to this event, heavily burdened by internal division, and that this division served as the catalyst for the abrupt deterioration and the fall of our great empire. ...it was not your empire. You are a Christian trying to beef up your dredentials. You can repeat this pretty tale all you want to...since you are unable to get anything for yourself and must go begging others to give it you, you will never convince anyone who isn`t BORN into this silliness that there is any connection at all between the ancient Assyrians and you. I speak English...doesn`t make me an Englishman. Then, afterward, specific circumstances seem to have prevailed. Our people were unable to free themselves from the tightly controlled grasp of their oppressors. There was a significant reduction in the areas inhabited by Assyrians. Lands were taken from owners by force. ...and do you think this is something new in the world? At the same time you pretend to "educate" people as to YOUR so-called history, you reveal yourself to be completely igonarant of what`s been going in history all around you. Much smaller in population, Assyrians became almost powerless. We were not entitled of government protection, subject for change and exchange with serious consequences, ranked by occupants as the lowest possible priority in our own country, conscripted like slaves or taxed head by head. ..it was not "your" country...you were a small part of IT. You were not conscripted like slaves...Christians rose high and held position and power and wealth in BetNahrain...even till today many have prospered and chosen to stay regardless of how difficult YOU make it for them to live in peace with their Muslim brothers and sisters. The Assyrian ethnic history, national language, and the heritage of our forefathers have all been exposed to distortion, fraud and groundless propaganda by the archenemies of the Assyrian people. ..Bullshit. Whenever someone doesn`t agree with you about YOU, you merely call that person all sorts of names. There isn`t anyone with a dime`s worth of education anywhere who accepts these claims. Some historians, quoting the untruths which they have mistakenly assumed to be true, have falsely provided validity to these lies. Nevertheless, Assyrian’s survived and started creating new means to hold out against hardships surrounding them from every angle. ...they survived as Christians...they gave up Ashur...remember? That was the trade they made in order to "survive". And now you want to come back and reclaim your "Assyrian heritage"...why, because you think you can get oil revenues by it? As centuries passed, Assyrians, having suffered for committing no sin, ..screw sin..it is a crime to preach sedition...which is what you people are talking about. No minority can TEL a government what is legitimate...not in Iraq, not in America. No one in America can preach or teach sedition either. are still waiting patiently for the opportunity to regain their names, identities, self control and life in an environment where equality prevails and justice becomes a common practice. So, we seek to find a legal way that to ensure our nation be treated equitably in our homeland. ..there attack on Iraq, favored by all of you, was illegal and immoral...with such a beginning there will be no happy outcome for those who urged this war. I believe Assyrians sincerely and collectively believe in the unity of Iraq. None of us desires partition of Iraq’s various factions or the division of Iraq along sectarian religious lines. But now, as Iraq sits on the brink of a comprehensive civil war, not all of Iraq’s inhabitants seem to agree. In fact, if civil war does erupt, Iraq will be ripped apart along the sectarian lines between its religious and ethnic factions. ..Iraq did not rip apart on its own..it was TORN apart by your fellow Christians. The Assyrians have no role in any internal political problems, nor will we play a part in a civil war in Iraq. ...you are working for the Americans and urging them on...this brings death to Muslims in Iraq as well. Unfortunately, we will surely be the victims of it. Therefore, during these new turbulent times resulting from operation Iraqi-freedom and U.S. occupation, we must establish a firm political plan to safeguard all sectors of the Assyrian nation in Iraq. ...then stick your head back up your arse...keep the lights on though. It is time to address centuries of Assyrian suffering from religious oppression and ethic cleansing. ..no such thing. That region has seen everyone killing EVERYONE...as has Europe and every other continent...your constant wail and whine that somehow what happened to you is very differenbt or deserving of some instant remedy is plain foolishnes...you are crybabies. We were exposed to tragedies and massacres. ..if you were then so was everyone else. Today Assyrians and the homeland of our forefathers, continue to be subject to the ugliest of tragedies in all aspects of daily life. ...brought to Iraq by Western Christianity with your BLESSINGS. In some districts, for example, Assyrian families are forced into the Islam religion simply to be safe. ...bullshit. You think this will really upset Evangelicals and they`ll do something for you. Besides which.,,,how many people have been forced into Christianity...try half the world. So? It is clear to all observers; stability in Iraq is far from being accomplished. ..that was never the aim, you fool. Difficult issues involving political, religious, social, economics and law and order remain unresolved and need to be properly addressed. Iraqi political leaders, the government and the national assembly, are unable to find permanent and successful solutions to these difficult problems. They unfortunately seem more part of the problem and less a part of the solution. ...puppets have a hard time hanging together. A few years ago, the United States played a major role in freeing the Iraqi people and succeeded. Afterwards, they had the opportunity, in conjunction with Iraqi leadership, to find real solutions to the internal problems in Iraq. Alas, the opportunity was wasted. A plan to protect Assyrians, and all other ethnic minorities, and help secure their futures and rights, was never addressed, even though a successful precedent had already been established. After all, the U.S. protected Kurds and Shiites when these populations needed protection. The Kurdish autonomy in Northern Iraq has proved successful there and in other United Nations member countries. ...they did not protect them...the elder Bush betrayed over 200,000 Shiites who believed him when he said America would support them if they rebelled...that`s where the "mass graves" that you all cry about came from..as a result of American treachery. There is a way to achieve this humane and noble goal for Assyrians in Iraq. Congregate them into their forefathers region of the country that is commonly known as “the Assyrian triangle” part in Ninevah province and part in Dahok. ..never happen. Unless you want all the ducks sitting in one barrel...who do you think is going to protect a bunch of crybabies...you? Of course, Assyrians have previously demanded self administrative or autonomy of their region. But now, more than ever, it is imperative for the future of the children in our homeland that the administrative, political, and cultural rights guaranteed in the Iraq new constitution be executed into law without reservation. ...Like America really cares about your children or homeland...they blithely starved to death hundreds of thousands of Iraq CHILDREN..and these are the people to whose tender mercies you are appealing? A nation that grants all factions equal rights and responsibility should be more functional than one which does not. ...those Christians in Iraq who are loyal to Iraq, as the majority are...have all the rights any other Iraqi has...what NO minority can do is beg for help in gaining an advantage from an outside force..that`s called treason. Building a free Iraqi society should be an on going commitment to motivate people and is what is best for Iraq at large, and best for all citizens of Iraq. ...they all agree...that`s why they`re risking their lives to drive out their common enemy...The West. Since the circumstances surrounding the crisis in Iraq became very dangerous the Assyrians, as an ethnic people and as Christians, need to be protected from inhumane and unjust acts directed at them. ...really? Did America protect American Black all those years they were denied basic rights? What does America do for its own poor, living in the streets and in cars with their children that it will RUSH to make sure YOU are fed and burped? If not soon, there may some day be no Assyrians or Christians in Iraq. ...this is something devoutly to be wished for...unfortunately it means many well meaning Christians who want nothing more than to remain in ALL of Iraq and not be forced into a Christian ghetto must also leave. You have made yourselves unwelcome...sleep in the bed YOU made. Dr Donny George has no need to sleep in it. For this reason, three plans must be considered to handle the Assyrian question in Iraq. They are: 1- Safe haven. A safe haven is a designated area in which temporary protection for persecuted people is offered through approval of the United Nations. A safe haven plan definitely is not the right solution for the Assyrian question in Iraq. ...there is no evidence at all that Christians are being persecuted by Muslims...there is far MORE proof that Iraqis are being targeted and abused by CHRISTIANS! If anyone needs a safe haven from persecution it is the MUSLIMS of Iraq. 2- Self administration of the region. The self administration of a region involves a number of districts in a geographic region inhabited by an ethnic group organized by a special law in accordance with a state’s constitution giving people the authority to administrate the region and protect themselves. A self administrative regional plan is an acceptable solution for the Assyrian question in Iraq. However this plan can only succeed if it is effectively protected and it is regional administration is linked directly to the central government of Iraq. ..the only place and time anyone EVER did such a thing was in Turkey..and it was done by MUSLIMS...never by Christians...who simply killed everyone else and called that "peace". You mean the Millet system in Turkey...which was also ruined for you by CHRISTIANS...not Muslñims...they GRANTED it to you. That time will not come again. 3- Autonomy. Autonomy defined is the right of self government. Local ethnic people of a given region are given sole power in accordance with the state’s constitution to govern and protect themselves. Regional government is linked directly to the central government of the state. Autonomy, in my personal opinion is the preferable and everlasting solution for handling the Assyrian future in Iraq. ...sure. In my personal opinion your watch would look better on my wrist...so what. ******************************************* A.G --------------------- |
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