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sure...when they WERE Assyrians.

Posted by pancho (Guest) - Monday, September 18 2006, 21:22:35 (CEST)
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Ashur Beth-Shlimon wrote:
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>In the past and in all the Assyrian Forums, I personally quoted many Assyrian Christian fathers who were proud Assyrians,

...you can`t be a "proud Jewish Father" if you convert to another religion....same is true for Assyrians...the religion people were born in was eveything to them...not just something they traded on for better goodies...Jews know that...you don`t. You switched religions in order to be "saved"..and got JUST what such a weasel deserves...I suppose you`d praise yourself as well for "saving yourself" if you ran out on your parents and siblings because hard times came to your family....I suppose you`d run down the stret and knock at the door of a Christian family and beg to be SAVED by them....saying you`ve "seen the light!" Be off with you...you got JUST what you deserved!!!

and not that only, but to a person who was not Christian but a proud Assyrian by the second century whom name is Lucian of Samosata.

...in the second century that would be a Roman name...not an Assyrian one.
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>Hereunder poems of Malpana Gewarges of Erbil you will see the first 5 lines which I took from his verses of about a hundred that he mention the name Assyrian with a pride,

...he`s as confused and lost as you are...he`s as desperater to prove that ONLY Christians..and those who talkalot, can be Assyrians...if HE and YOU could adopt new religions...so could all those who turned to Islam...the difference is that THEY built something grand and new while you all WRITE and YAP! And for THAT you want to say you are "real" Assyrians!

...YOU also mention the name "Assyrian" with what you like to call pride...only you insult us more than you know....and Gewargis is just "George" mispelled.

and the other lines was a follow up by me that covers the last 100 years where I used the same type of verses of our Malpana Gewarges of Erbil from the 13th century.

....which is exactly the time your Christian education prepared you to deal in.
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>ܥܘܢܝܬܐ ܕܡܠܦܢܐ ܓܝܘܪܓܝܣ ܘܪܕܐ ܕܐܪܒܝܠ( 1225 - ?)
> ܕܥܠ ܩܬܘܠܝܩܐ ܦܛܪܝܪܟܐ ܕܡܕܢܚܐ - ܢܩܛܘܦ ܚܡܫܐ ܚܘܩܝܢ ܐܝܟܐ ܕܥܗܕ ܫܡܐ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ ܒܐܝܩܪܐ :
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>ܘܡܪܝ ܡܐܪܝ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ: ܡܢ ܛܘܗܡܐ ܚܠܐ ܟܘܢܝܐ܀
>ܘܥܒܕܝܫܘܥ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ: ܕܡܢ ܓܢܣܐ ܛܘܗܡܢܝܐ܀
>ܕܗܘܐ ܒܐܬܘܪ ܥܠܠܢܐ: ܘܐܬܩܬܠܩ ܐܝܟ ܩܢܘܢܐ܀ .
>ܒܐܬܘܪ ܡܒܥܬ ܝܘܠܦܢܐ: ܘܐܬܡܢܝ ܒܣܝܣܪܬܐ ܕܟܐܢܐ܀
>ܘܥܒܕܝܫܘܥ ܡܐܢܐ ܓܒܝܐ: ܕܡܢ ܐܬܘܪ ܟܪܟܐ ܦܐܝܐ܀
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ܥܡ ܐܩܦܬܐ
>ܠܥܘܢܝܬܐ ܕܡܠܦܢܐ ܪܒܐ ܓܝܘܪܓܝܣ ܘܪܕܐ ܕܐܪܒܝܠ ܕܥܠ ܦܛܪܝܪܟܐ ܕܥܕܬܐ ܥܬܝܩܬܐ ܕܡܕܢܚܐ ܒܝܕ
>ܡܚܝܠܐ ܐܫܘܪ ܕܒܝܬ ܫܠܝܡܘܢ .
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>ܒܬܪ ܗܠܝܢ ܦܛܪܝܪܟܐ ܛܘܒܢܐ : ܕܙܒܢܐ ܥܣܩܐ ܕܐܘܠܨܢܐ .
>ܘܥܕܬܢ ܢܦܠܬ ܒܚܪܝܢܐ : ܡܢ ܦܘܠܓܐ ܘܥܨܝܢܐ ܀
>ܘܡܪܝ ܒܢܝܡܝܢ ܨܡܘܚܬܢܐ : ܕܟܝܪܐ ܘܚܩܝܪܐ ܒܣܘܥܪܢܐ.
>ܣܡܟܘ ܠܝܛܐ ܘܕܡܢܐ : ܢܨܒ ܟܡܐܢܐ ܣܡܡܢܐ ܀
>ܫܦܟ ܕܡܐ ܕܗܘ ܟܐܢܐ : ܕܡܪܝ ܒܢܝܡܝܢ ܥܠܠܢܐ .
>ܣܗܕܐ ܕܐܬܘܪ ܒܗܢ ܙܒܢܐ : ܠܥܠܡ ܕܘܟܪܢܐ ܘܥܘܗܕܢܐ܀
>ܘܡܪܝ ܐܝܫܝ ܕܫܡܥܘܢܐ : ܟܘܡܪܐ ܪܒܐ ܒܢܨܚܢܐ .
>ܓܒܪܐ ܡܠܝܐ ܡܢ ܛܢܢܐ : ܚܫܝܒܐ ܒܣܕܪܐ ܕܡܠܦܢܐ܀
>ܘܡܪܝ ܕܢܚܐ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ : ܟܡܐ ܚܠܐ ܘܒܣܝܡ ܟܘܢܝܐ.
>ܡܪܝ ܕܢܚܐ ܗܘ ܪܒܝܥܝܐ : ܕܫܡܫ ܠܟܘܪܣܝܐ ܫܠܝܚܝܐ܀
>ܫܠܝܚܝܐ ܐܦ ܡܬܘܡܝܐ : ܕܥܕܬܐ ܕܝܑܫܘܥ ܢܨܪܝܐ .
>ܐܘ ܡܪܝ ܒܪܟ ܠܗܢ ܙܗܝܐ: ܕܢܗܘܐ ܠܐܬܘܪ ܙܟܝܐ ܀
>ܘܟܠܢ ܣܒܪܐ ܘܬܘܟܠܢܐ : ܡܢ ܡܪܝܐ ܨܒܐܘܬ ܚܝܠܬܢܐ.
>ܐܫܪܐ ܡܪܝ ܫܠܡܐ ܘܫܝܢܐ: ܘܢܛܘܪ ܐܬܘܪ ܡܢ ܢܟܝܢܐ܀

...I can write in German...doesn`t make me German. Growe up will you? Jews wrote and spoke tha same language...so did Egyptians...and Arameans and a whole lot of other people....the language proves not a damn thing...neither does your "pride" and poems....DO something for a change...let`s see how "Assyrian" you`ll be then.
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The Assyrianms always were proud ASSYRIANS Ashur Beth-Shlimon - Monday, September 18 2006, 18:16:11 (CEST)
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