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A clarification
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Saturday, May 24 2008, 10:47:20 (CEST)
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While it is true that some religions share similarieties, they are not all the same and alike. Yes, Hindus say "there is only one God" so do Jews, christians, Muslims, Aboriginees, Zulu and all kinds of different people. They ma teach "don't steal" etc but that is not the point. There are also huge differences between them. Christianity is different from Judaism yet it is supposed to be from the same God and Christians have the Jewish Old Testament in their books. But there are huge differences between them. Jews just like Muslims believe God to be the one and only Creator without partners who is unique. Christians believe their god to be a father, son and holy ghost. This is blasphemy to both Jews and Muslims. What is more absurd is that Christians claim to believe in the Jewish books yet the Jews do not believe or know their Lord to be a trinity. Christians, furthermore, believe in a doctrine of original sin and this is again unknown to Judaism or Islam and probably even to other faiths. Christians also believe in "atonement" which is that Jesus is the "lamb of God" that takes away the sin of mankind. The Jews do not know Elohim to be that way but they know it is through repentance, keeping the "law" and to worship God alone.

The "Shama Israel" is repeated 3 times daily by a practicing follower of Judaism and that is the most important of all to Jews. It is similar to the Shahadah of Islam. Jews do not know of a God who requires "blood sacrifice" to redeem sins. This doctrine and the rest of the above are foreign to Judaism and Islam and are only found in Christianity. The eucharist is another blasphemy to both Jews and Muslims because this is purely pagan and this could not have been taught by a Hebrew prophet. Nor could a Hebrew prophet and messiah suddenly preach a pagan doctrine which believes in "incarnation", God becoming a man. This is again blasphemy. According to the Jewish Old Testament, "he who guilty of death by hanging on a tree(crucifixion) is cursed" and to call Jesus a a curse is blasphemy to Muslims and Christians proudly boast about it and can only say "it's love". As one can see, all religions are not alike at all. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are usually known as "Abrahamic faiths" because Moses, Jesus and Muhammad(peace be upon them all) were descendatns of the prophet Abraham(pbuh).

The biggest difference and the most important thing is the concept of the Creator and Christians differ in that extremely and the trinity is blasphemous to both Jews and Muslims. This is the biggest thing the Quran stresses when talking of Christians. It calls them to return to the true worship of God as taught by Jesus and the main point is to worship the one who created Jesus and not the other way around. The Jews have the concept of God down but the Quran calls on them to act justly by not telling lies against God, and to accept Jesus as Messiah who was sent to them and realize that the Quran is a "confirmation" of what was revealed to Moses and Jesus. It seeks to reunite all of them and all of mankind. So there may be similarities but there are huge differences both in belief, and rituals. I never attack Jesus nor his religion because it is Christianity that I am talking about when I say something and I always distinguish between Jesus and Christianity. Christians lump the two together to make it look as if Muslims are attacking Jesus when that is not even the case. It's not Jesus that we are talking about but those who claim to be his followers.

If anything, we are only trying to free him from the slanders and lies attributed to him by the world of Christendom. Furthermore, Panco nor I are slandering Christianity when we say that Christians eat the body of Christ when performing the eucharist because this what the church teaches and this is what the Bible records Jesus as having said. Since Christians take the Bible to be the "word of God", we can quote it as a source to prove a point. It is not a secret but something that is faithfully observed by nearly 2 billion Christians. Nor do I see Pancho as slandering when he mentions the bloody history of Christianity, the forced conversions, crusades and other events. These are written in books by Christian historians who have no reason to lie. It seems that some Christians are always trying to blame muslims for the things they are guilty of and things that only apply to them. Muslims never had a reason to have to force anyone to accept Islam because first of all it is forbidden by Islam itself plus non-Muslims are protected and have their rights under Islam. There is no need to do so because a person has the choice and a person can still be safe and not have to live in fear as a non-Muslim in an Islamic state.

Today it is different unfortunately because there is currently no Islamic state which has an Islamic based government so this does not apply to countries like Iraq or Egypt but I am talking about Islamic sources and also when Muslims were living and ruling under the Islamic system. Once again, the point is not to slander Christianty with the eucharist. The whole issue started with the saying that "all religions are the same" and Pancho objected by correctly showing that they are not the same. He was asked for prove and he brought the Gospel of John from the Bible, and we know that the church and Christians believe this. No need to get pissed or jump subject to subject.



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