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=> How Christianity Really Spread

How Christianity Really Spread
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Tuesday, May 13 2008, 21:07:04 (CEST)
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Our good friend Assyrian Muslim is exactly right when he tells how this religion was really spread through rape and murder. This isn’t a matter of bigotry or hatred or lies…it’s the historical record as Christian historians have verified over and over again…and as anyone can check the sources to determine the truth for him or herself.

Some time back a couple of Christians came on here to say that the Armenians converted peacefully simply because they wanted to…they went on to say that the Romans had nothing to do with it, as the Armenian church records clearly show…church records lie, there’s no simpler way to say it…the church is desperate to rewrite its true history. The Romans, the Eastern Romans, were most definitely ruling Armenia around the time Constantine forced Christianity on his people. This was, again, not a question of even Romans realizing the “truth” of Jesus and rushing in hordes to convert…by law the pagan temples were closed, the priests banished and anyone worshipping in the old ways was put to death…check the historical record not the hysterical one.

The Roman empire conquered and ruled at least 100 different nations and peoples…and up until the 18th century European monarchs believed that for there to be peace within a nation only ONE religion could be tolerated…even going so far as outlawing, on pain of death, any sect or offshoot of the SAME Christian religion…once again, the historical record is clear…it isn’t a question of “you HATE Christians”…it’s a simple matter of what actually happened verses what the church would like its goslings and geese to believe…because the truth is so much uglier in this case.

During the times when the Romans, in their centuries-long battle with the Persian Empire, over the contested lands of Syria, Egypt, Mesopotamia and Armenia, ruled, they forcibly converted the population, outlawing on pain of death all native religions…they did this throughout their empire and no doubt hurried to do it in the regions they hoped to secure, to form a bond between the conquered people and themselves…even if the Persian might reclaim the lands…because there would be a fifth column within that identified and remained faithful to Byzantium. It’s in the historical record…nothing made up…no Jumblat-style lies.

It wasn’t until the 18th century, especially after the devastating religious wars of the previous century that Christian nations began to accept the idea of allowing Christians, CHRISTIANS mind you, to believe in whatever sects they wanted to, so long as they obeyed the civil laws…it took THAT long for Christians to tolerate CHRISTIANS.

Our funny people claim that Islam and Arabs caused their numbers to dwindle drastically…that until Islam came Christianity was wildly popular and growing and thriving…that isn’t true…not a bit. Christianity itself with its monasteries and celibacy and hatred for women and sex was killing itself off and, where no force was used, hardly attracted any but social misfits always seeking some new thing to believe….the Romans FORCED Christianity on Mesopotamia at the point of the sword…it was never popular or taken up by the mass of the people…not willingly.

The earliest “free” converts to Christ were Jews living outside Israel…in Mesopotamia and elsewhere. Having already removed themselves from the Temple at Jerusalem, the only place where sacrifices could be made, these Jewish communities were already somewhat “tainted”…and they had far less trouble accepting Jesus as the promised Jewish Messiah…which is all he was….not the head of a new religion but just the prophesied Redeemer etc. We silly people don’t like to admit that, we insist that WE were the first converts to Christianity…but there’s nothing except myth to back us up while there’s every bit of fact to show Jews were the first to take up Christ…after all, that’s exactly who his followers were…Jews and nothing but Jews….first In Nazareth and Jerusalem and next in Syria and Mesopotamia…end of story. Later converts were 99.9% FORCED converts…forced by the Roman emperors who were looking around for one single religion with which to bind together their scattered and various subjects…and a religion that crippled the minds of youth and told them their rewards would come only after death and this only if they did as the emperor and his henchman, the pope, told them without complain or squabble and who further could be induced to do the unthinkable; eat human flesh and drink human blood as a sort of gang initiation after which they’d do ANY disgusting and illegal thing if told to by their “god”…was just what the empire needed.

The proof that the Arabs had nothing to do with the so-called “loss of numbers” among the Mesopotamians can be seen wherever Christian monks went to spread the word…and got nowhere. Our monks went to China, India and Japan…as we never tire of saying…are any of those countries Christian today? Were there Arabs in China or Japan or India who stopped people from converting…did Turks or Kurds in China stop Christianity? Hardly. In fact the rulers of those countries welcomed the monks and allowed them to preach freely, build churches and spread their good word…and no one was interested…the monks got their few converts by rescuing abandoned girl babies and any others that were tossed away…a good and decent thing to do…but not because they were good and decent people..but because they knew they could raise these orphans as Christians and perhaps with dowries supplied by the church, marry them off to pagans they could then hope to convert and if not, at least they had a chance with the offspring of such unions…

In Japan the Christians were finally persecuted and thrown out, no doubt because they brought it on themselves…in China and India the numbers of Christians there today is exactly the number you’d have if a band of monks settled in those countries 1400 years ago and went to fucking each other and babies they rescued and raised as Christians..(.and don’t tell me you NEVER heard of a priest fucking a child either!)for centuries until today…..no more than that. Sure individuals here and there converted willingly, there are oddballs everywhere STILL trying on new religions…but their lack of success…in 1,400 years tells plainly that it takes no Arabs to frustrate the Christian message…where no force is applied, a handful may convert…and that’s all there was in Mesopotamia…until the church wrote its lying manuscripts.

We know the bloody truth of how the church succeeded at converting the natives of the New World, from Alaska to Patagonia…and how they managed it in Africa and the Island nations…with armies at their back…that’s how. It’s too strange to believe that over 1000 years ago, when there were no independent witnesses, the church supposedly won people over with just one saint walking over the hill…and yet centuries later when there were plenty witnesses to tell us just how it was really done, it used the bloodiest methods possible…doesn’t make any sense.

Christianity has been a disaster from the start…which is not the fault of Jesus. Christianity is the Imperial religion of the Roman Empire and that has never changed. Decent people throughout the ages have been moved by the example of Jesus…a man of great wisdom and good intentions…but that is NOT official Christianity…that is NOT industrial strength, 10,000 cylinder Christianity, an engine that runs on the blood of Innocents…as it had to get it’s jump start on the blood of Jesus. No murder of Jesus and NO heaven for Christians…that isn’t my “hatred” or prejudice speaking, that’s Christian ritual and doctrine…had Jesus died peacefully in bed, surrounded by friends and family, as Muhammad did, there would be no paradise for Christians…Jesus HAD to be tortured and torn limb from limb his body nailed to a plank…and his followers dance around this horror, washing themselves in the blood of their “sacrificial lamb” while taking gobs of flesh to stuff into their mouths, washing it down with his blood…and they excuse this abattoir religion by saying “it’s only symbolic”…and you can’t help but think..”is that supposed to BETTER? Why choose disgusting criminal behavior as SYMBOLS? Symbols of WHAT fer chrissakes……love”????

And that could be the most profound crime Christianity has committed…the mixing up in the minds of innocent children of love with murder. They are taught to “love” Jesus and that Jesus “loved” them…and he showed this love by allowing himself to be murdered for love of them…and they shows their’s for him by eating his flesh, drinking his blood and even washing up in it. This is about as sick as you can get...and to teach this stuff to children is beyond belief Look around at them…they used Jesus as a justification to murder six million innocent Jewish men women and children who never did a thing to them…and now they’re at it again, using that same Bible to go after Arabs. Of course there are violent and sick people everywhere…but surely it doesn’t help the human race any to teach children to be on the lookout for great benefits which justify the murders you have to commit to get them…or to worship instruments of torture and murder, hanging little models around their chubby necks of what could just as easily have been carbines, Bowie knives, hangman’s nooses, big stones, lead pipes, repeating rifles, submachine guns, pistols, bows and arrows, crossbows and any other instruments used to execute human beans, done up in cute miniature, in gold and silver…surely it doesn’t help our chances on earth to teach hordes of children cannibalism and vampirism as a way of showing “perfect love”.

Give the world a break…kay?



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