The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> More EVIDENCE

More EVIDENCE
Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Sunday, February 12 2012, 9:05:07 (UTC)
from 74.136.41.187 - 74-136-41-187.dhcp.insightbb.com Commercial - Windows Codename Longhorn - Mozilla
Website:
Website title:

Okay, these nationalists are boring to me and I have debated many of them for over eight years now, and always with the same results and it's always the same process, their opinions and the facts which I provide from those who know history and are certified to write about it. I got bored on a Saturday night so I may as well add more of my evidence to counter the opinions and slanders made by Christians against Muslims. I really don't have anything invested in this as I don't belong to neither of the religions, but I have heard the slanders for too long, and I do it just because I care about what is true. I know the nationalists don't read real books but I do and I am sure any unbiased person would also. Let's further see what western historians have to say, and especially about the NESTORIANS(of whom Aprim is the tribal chief):

"Tritton, Arthur Stanley

Patriarch Ghaytho wrote:

The Arabs, to whom the Lord has given control over the world, treat us as you know; they are not the enemies of Christians. Indeed, they praise our community, and treat our priests and saints with dignity, and offer aid to churches and monasteries.’[1]"

Will Durant: "Story of Civilization"

"At the time of the Umayyad caliphate, the people of the covenant, Christians, Zoroastrians, Jews, and Sabians, all enjoyed degree of tolerance that we do not find even today in Christian countries. They were free to practice the rituals of their religion and their churches and temples were preserved. They enjoyed autonomy in that they were subject to the religious laws of the scholars and judges.’[2]"

Ron Landau

"In contrast to the Christian Empire, which attempted to impose Christianity on its subjects, the Arabs extended recognition to religious minorities, and accepted their presence. Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians were known to them as the People of the Covenant; in other words, the nations who enjoyed a protected status.’[7]"

Gustav Lebon

"The tolerance of Muhammad towards the Jews and Christians was truly grand; the founders of other religions that appeared before him, Judaism and Christianity in particular, did not prescribe such goodwill. His caliphs followed the same policy, and his tolerance has been acknowledged by skeptics and believers alike when they study the history of the Arabs in depth.’[4]"


Thomas Arnold

"that there were many people in Italy at that time who longed for Ottoman rule. They wished they could be granted the same freedom and tolerance that the Ottomans gave to their Christian subjects, for they had despaired of achieving it under any Christian government. He also mentions that a great many Jews fled persecution in Spain at the end of the 15th century and took refuge in Ottoman Turkey."


Denier Etiene

"They retained their religion in complete security during the eight centuries that the Muslims ruled their lands. Some of them held high posts in the palace in Cordoba, but when the same Christians obtained power over the country, suddenly their first concern was to exterminate Muslims."


Richard Stebbins

"They (the Turks) allowed all of them, Roman Catholics and Greek Orthodox, to preserve their religion and follow their consciences as they chose: they allowed them their churches to perform their sacred rituals in Constantinople and many other places. This is in contrast to what I can testify to from living in Spain for twelve years; not only were we forced to attend their Papist celebrations, but our lives and the lives of our grandchildren were in danger also"


Will Durant

""Christian heretics persecuted by the patriarchs of Constantinople, Jerusalem, Alexandria, or Antioch were now free and safe under a Moslem rule that found their disputes quite unintelligible. In the ninth century, the Moslem governor of Antioch appointed a special guard to keep Christian sects from massacring one another at church. Monasteries and nunneries flourished under the skeptical Umayyads; the Arabs admired the work of the monks in agriculture and reclamation, acclaimed the wines of monastic vintage, and enjoyed, in traveling, the shade and hospitality of Christian cloisters. For a time, relations between the two religions were so genial that Christians wearing crosses on their breasts conversed in mosques with Moslem friends. The Mohammedan bureaucracy had hundreds of Christian employees; Christians rose so frequently to high office as to provoke Moslem complaints. Sergius, father of St. John of Damascus, was chief finance minister to Abd-al-Malik, and John himself, last of the Greek Fathers of the Church, headed the council that governed Damascus. The Christians of the East in general regarded Islamic rule as a lesser evil than that of the Byzantine government and church."


Again, where is their proof?



---------------------


The full topic:



Host: www.insideassyria.com
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Connection: close
Referer: http://www.insideassyria.com/rkvsf5/rkvsf_core.php?My_evidence-05Bl.4Bjq.REPLY
Cookie: *hidded*
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-length: 5412



Powered by RedKernel V.S. Forum 1.2.b9