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Re: Christians...who else?
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Thursday, April 24 2008, 22:08:47 (CEST)
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Jumblat wrote:
>It is too bad to see something like that, but these things and worst are on daily bases happening in IRAQ where Muslims killing each other,

...you mean you never heard of Christians ATTACKING EACH OTHER? Are you serious?


AND I AM NOT ATTACKING ISLAM , but the matter of fact is that these people are MUSLIMS .

..of course you are...because you are spreading lies. The issue isn't that people "attack each other"...or that Christians attack Christians, or Muslims attack Muslims...or Irish attack Irish. Where and when on earth have people NOT attacked other people?

...my argument with you is that you claim the Quran TELLS Muslims to kill Christians...and it does not...neither did Muslims ever kill Christians JUST because they were Christians...but Christians DID kill Jews JUST because they were Jews. This is fact, not fantasy and not an "attack" by me against Christianity. You are also wrong when you say that Muslims forcibly converted Christians on pain of death....history, as amply shown by Christian historians, shows quite the reverse; that it was Christians who killed people who refused to be converted to Christ. You've merely tried to lay these crimes at the feet of Muslims when they were committed by Christians.

....any evidence, I mean REAL evidence, to the contrary would be helpful....for heaven's sake we aren't children to be shocked, SHOCKED, that people "attack each other".
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>So, Pancho you are making big deal where no blood shed by these Christian groups


...that counts for little. No Iraq "group" nor individual shed any blood on 9/11...but that didn't stop Christians from attacking Iraq, even though no Iraqi had anything to do with the attacks on America. If America can attack and murder innocent "groups", like an entire nation, men, women and children... I don't see why you're so upset at Iraqis if they attack an "innocent group" too...besides which Iraqis aren't killing people just for being Christians..they are attacking and killing people for what they DO, nopt what they ARE...for collaborating with the enemy, being traitors OR as part of kidnapping schemes for economic gain, which Muslims also suffer from....in no way are Christians being singled out....but if they were it would still be excusable because all of Iraq's present and 17 year-woes have been brought to Iraq by CHRISTIANS...so some resentment is inevitable and most human.

, while those who you and the so-called Assyrianmuslim defend are slaughtering each other on daily bases in Iraq.

...Christians have slaughtered each other on daily and yearly basis...the North and the South slaughtered each other for five years in the American Civil war.....and wars all over the world have shown us people slaughtering each other oon a daily basis....what's the big fuss? Obviosuly EVERYONE slaughters everyone else at some time or other....in this case Iraq did nothing to deserve any of this and has none the less been attacked and ruined forr 17 years and more...when you destroy a nation's police and security and throw the people into turmoil and deny them clean water and medicine and health and food, all of which was plentifully available when the Christians were NOT attacking.....you can't be surprised that law and order has disappeared.....the truth is that Iraqi society was never like this until the CHRISTIANS attacked and ruined the country...to blame the Iraqis themselves, as if this was all their idea only shows what you're really trying to do. Iraqis are the VICTIMS of Christian AGGRESSION...and victims have a way of venting their anger and frustration on whatever and whomever they can get their hands on....let the Iraqis be as heavily armed as the Christians and see if they won't prefer meeting army to army....but so long as they're outnumbered and outgunned at every turn, no one can blame them for defending themselves with kitchen knives, sticks, bats, rocks, and home made bombs...
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>I suggest , you and the Assyrianmuslim leave these Christian countries and live in that Islamic paradise from staying here and promoting ISLAM while you people ran away from that HELL and left your MUSLIMS killing each other in the name of ISLAM.

....I'm not promoting anything....neither is our Muslim friend...except some honesty. I don't need to go anywhere...those who understand the roots cause of America's greatness aren't going to take your advice and leave the country to people like you. Niether will we remain quiet while you ruin our insitutions and culture...Americans believe in fair-play and that's all we're advocating where Muslims are concerned...the same as should have been sought when Jews were the ones being set up and set upon by Christians just before your Holocaust. Had people resisted that murderous rush to justify crimes againstt Jews, the German people and their country too would have been spared devastation and partition...it is in America's best interest to avoid being consumed by the kind oof blind hatred and prejudice that eats at you....what we're asking you to do is bring us FACTS and evidence from historical sources, not to "defend islam" but defend America so it doesn't get as stupidly racist and bigoted as you are.
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>That Muslim writer( Jihad ) was right when he said MUSLIMS are killing each other more than their enemy killing them, and I suggest to the American Administration the best solution to get rid of these ISLAMIC Fundamentals to leave them alone where they will kill each other, because as you step in then no matter how much they kill each other, still they will unite to kill the Christians.

....bullshit. Muslim fundamentalists gained poower when the Christian attacked....when the Christians stole Palestinian lands to make up for their OWN crimes against European Jews, that's when Muslim anger first fueled fundamentalism...and it's been Bush's policy to increase thhe anger and extremism among Muslims.
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>I hope you understand what I mean ISLAM is no doubt a religious of love and compassion even though its logo is a SWORD , but that sword is made of love but the problem are the MUSLIMS themselves !

...and your religion of "love" only works because a Jew was executed on a cross....he could as easily have had his head cut off with a sword. The sword was never used to spread the Muslim religion...the sword was used as an INSTRUMENT in warfare.....to defend against the Romans and Persiand and also to conquer land for political and economic reasons....something ever Christian monarch and pope was doing at the time...but the sword of Islam was NEVER used to force people into Islam...into the mosque. This is what you epeating and this is what we keep asking you to back up with EVIDENCE.....all of these posts of yours are meant to disguise the fact that no such evidence exists....because it NEVER happened.



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