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Re: How Religion Does it
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Sunday, December 9 2007, 23:23:29 (CET)
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pancho wrote:
>The human mind loves reason…it thrives on understanding and seeks knowledge against all odds and in the face of all obstacles. Explain how things work to your child and you’ll have an avid listener, frighten them for wanting to know and you’ll see a cloud descend over their bright eyes; at that moment they’re ripe for religion. Sooner of later every religion ever invented or brought down from on high will crash and burn against the human mind. The cannibal who worshipped the great God Mugwhump was as certain as any Christian that his god would endure forever.

You can see that now in this century where there is more freedom available. Do you seriously see any person with an open mind doing research and then becoming a Christian? This is not to put it down but is just very observable. In any religion if a person is just following something blindly, such person is really not doing what is right. That goes for any religion, faith or belief. Whenever I talk to the more ignorant Muslims, and I don't do it to embarrass them or hurt them, but I ask them when did you become a Muslim, they'll say I was born and raised into it. But any person who does some minor studying in Islam will learn that Every one is required to research, seek knowledge and make shahada. Just because my name may be Abdullah or my parents claimed to be Muslims, that don't make me a Muslim, but I have to make the choice. Such Muslims that I am referring to are not hard to spot because they are very obvious. They don't know much, they don't practice it and don't even know what Islam is. However, there is another group which know what they are doing and they seek knowledge and then accept something. We see that in Islam today in our time and it existed back then. There is no pressure on anyone today to accept Islam but when you see people from far away much educated coming to Islam, I think some of the so called Muslims in the so called Islamic world should feel some shame. I see young people who come from non practicing Muslim familes yet they are at the mosque every day and living Islam.

>Religion maintains its hold by violence and early childhood indoctrination. No Christian is about to test the correctness of his beliefs by leaving his children free to discover the right and true Christian faith for themselves…and violence was the method through which the religion first gained its hold over least this is true of Christianity. The Romans didn’t leap into Christ, they were shoved by their emperors…and the greater majority of the Jews who had the privilege of seeing and hearing the son of god for themselves remained unmoved…in fact they found him to be a pest. If they remained unconvinced it’s hardly likely that in the New World, Alaska, Hawaii, Africa and Helenic cultures there would have been a rush to embrace the words spoken by a long dead man from a distant and totally alien village…accepted “on faith” from the out of work fishermen who supposedly witnessed it all and relayed the story by the unreliable method of word of mouth until it was recorded from memory a couple of hundred years later.
>No one is that gullible, not unless you hold a sword to them and get to their children before anyone else does.

That is exactly what I have been saying too. If people are given a choice as everyone is entitled to it, it be a totally different picture. Because in my entire life, I have never met a single Christian who was not from a Christian background and just follows either family tradition or even if he has knowledge of the Bible he/she has not looked elsewhere. Many times those particular kind behave very arrogantly as the "born again" Christians do and do it because of prejudices. I even test them all the time and they behave like this. That is the reason why they spend so much time and effort in giving a nasty image of Islam. I said it before and I always say it, why don't teach their Christian religion and we teach Islam, without attacking one another and let people make a choice, and wullahi I see the people in the west coming to Islam and are hungry for knowledge and they see that there is something missing in their life no matter what, and "Jesus payed the price for your salvation" is not attracting them because they want reality and not wishful fantasies. That is why the Islamic empire went to far of lands established a beautful Islamic system and gave the people their God given right. They can keep their former religion or embrace Islam, and people made the choice. Today, 1400 years later I can see the same and what is the reason so many people all over the world are embracing Islam. Belief in God does not have to be forced on people nor do people have to be intimidated.

I don't go forcing my beliefs on other peoples throats nor go attacking them if they don't agree with me. But people come to me all the time questioning me without me saying a word to them or giving them a hint. People who are hungry for knowledge or want to accept something, they'll choose for themselves. There is no need to force ppl by the sword as constantine did, the various crusades, and all those born again Christians who are using "sneak tactics" in order to gain converts. I still find it fascinating why does one need a "special training" for some time in order to teach a religion? Why not just tell the truth and let people decide? I think we know the answer and it's a painful one for many so I won't say it. But good points as always.


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