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Re: "I saw it on the internet".....
Posted by Jeffrey (Guest) - Wednesday, June 25 2014, 2:57:26 (UTC)
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What you have written just reminded me of a trial in Michigan about 3 months ago. The story appears below:


Judge dismisses state's first witness in gay marriage trial
WZZM 12:14 p.m. EST March 3, 2014
Gay Marriage Trial Monday


(Photo: Jessica J. Trevino/Detroit Free Press)
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DETROIT (Det. Free Press) -- In a bombshell development, a federal judge just threw out the state's first witness in Michigan's gay marriage trial, concluding the Princeton-educated philosophy expert had nothing to offer in this case.

"He's very eloquent but right now, all he is offering to us is mainly his opinions," U.S. District Judge Bernard Friedman said of the witness. "The court does not believe ... that he should be allowed to testify."

This came as a blow to the state in the case, in which two female nurses are seeking to overturn Michigan's ban on same-sex marriage so that they can marry and adopt each others' children.

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The state had planned on having its first witness Sherif Girgis on the stand for up to two hours. Prior to getting dismissed, Girgis spent about 20 minutes on the stand listing his credentials, most of which included lecturing and writing academic papers on the philosophical debate surrounding the definition of marriage. He also has written a book, "What is Marriage, Man & Woman in Defense."

But Friedman dismissed the witness following arguments from the plaintiffs side, who noted that Girgis is not a lawyer, child development expert, psychologist or expert in Michigan law. He has no experience in the issues that matter in this case, the plaintiffs argued.

Friedman agreed.

The state, meanwhile, is now preparing to put its second witness on the stand: sociologist Mark Regnarus, who is likely to be the most controversial witness to testify in the case.

Regnerus, a University of Texas sociologist, published a 2012 study on family structure that has been condemned by social scientists and psychology groups as misleading and irrelevant. Regnarus has asserted that differences exist between children of parents who have had same-sex relationships and those with married moms and dads, the former faring worse.

The state is counting on Regnarus to help bolster its argument that marriage should be defined as a man and a woman, and that children are best off raised by a mom and a dad.

Voters banned same-sex marriage in 2004. The state argues the voters have already spoken on the issue, and their decision should stick.

The trial is set to resume at 1 p.m.

Contact Tresa Baldas: tbaldas@freepress.com

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pancho wrote:
>...good documentary about the battle to overturn Proposition 8 in California which declared marriage as only for a man and a woman....there was a lawsuit, of course, and it was won, next came an appeal and that was won also...then the case went to the Supreme Court which dodged the issue by declaring that the side that was against Gay marriage had no legal "standing", meaning they could not show that Gay marriage had any negative impact on them, and refused to review the case...so Prop 8 remained invalid and today humans in California can marry whomever they want.
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>What was interesting was how quickly the witnesses against Gay Marriage melted away and refused to appear for their side...the thing is on FOX news and the rest of them you can say whatever you want...you can make things up, you can lie because you know no one will call you on it...but on the stand in a courtroom you take an oath and you know damn well you will be challenged...so all these hotheads who rail against Gay marriage and Homosexuality, who say silly things like "Gay marriage will endanger children", and who might even have a "study" they will cite, dare not appear in a court of law...and none of them did...except for one guy who was forced to testify by the pro-Gay side...and when he was challenged on his ridiculous writings and asked to provide SOURCES and EVIDENCE for his silly hate-filled opinions, he actually said..."from the internet"...just like OUR jackasses do...on top of that they showed a "book" he had written himself filled with his own ditzy ideas...and it was SELF-PRINTED, also like our idiots!
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>conclusion: Assyrians aren't the only idiots.



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