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Re: Imploding the Myth of Israel
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Wednesday, November 6 2013, 14:50:28 (UTC)
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...he calls the book an "honest book".....I don't think it can be, as I don't find this well-aimed denunciation of Israel an honest one either. Any evaluation of what the Jewish people, in their Israeli manifestation, have become which does not first and foremost level the finger of blame against the thousand year persecution of European Jewry by Christianity does not tell the entire story and is anything BUT honest....this article really does come across as an attack against Israelis.

...Israel presents me with a fine dilemma. I agree with everything he says, but at the same time I can't help but ask "why"...and "how"? How did this happen to the same group of people which produced so many stellar examples of human decency and greatness....the same way I refuse to blame juvenile delinquents for what they become without taking a good hard look at what their lives were like, of what it is to be born into a broken family with no idea of how to respect and care for a human baby...surely constant beatings, humiliations, deprivation and bad examples must contribute SOMETHING to the finished product...is it ever right or fair to blame the kid, as if he or she were in complete control of their upbringing from the moment they exited the womb?

...I take the same attitude towards Israel, towards the reasons why an Israel ever became necessary in the first place. Whose idea was that? Who REALLY gave birth to Israel...Jews, or Christians? Who made an Israel a dire necessity, a matter of life or death...Jews, or Christians?

...does anyone really imagine that Jews, living in relative peace and comfort in the great European capitals would ever have dreamed up a two-bit "nation" in a desert sandlot? Would any Jew have left Paris or Berlin or Rome or Budapest for Haifa...in the 1920...or after WW II?

Just as with the criminal, I am concerned with what forces MADE the criminal...because being a criminal is about as satisfying a career choice as being an Israeli....as much of the Israeli government ARE criminals....but why? And how? Before I condemn the delinquent, or criminal or Israeli I want to know what external forces were at play to help shape the individual, and state.

People can be forced into a life of crime, or prostitution, of unkindness....and so can a state. Israel wasn't born out of the usual forces...it was created as the ultimate ghetto, something European Christians were already forcing their Jews into....and the guardians of that ghetto learned much from their 1000-year sojourn among Christians. If Israelis today remind us of a Fascist state, who taught them...who set them the example...who traumatized them to this extent? No other people on earth have been subjected to the constant, unending, unyielding persecution and for the stupidest of all reasons, than have Jews...no people. They ARE a "special case" because Christians MADE them so.

...I have lots of criticism and condemnation for Israel's behavior...but I also ask "why".....and "how"...and when I do I find I have a lot more criticism to level at Christians, a lot more, than I can muster up for Jews.

..in any "honest" evaluation of Israel, or a delinquent child, mention must be made of the forces which shaped that state, or person...much more than to just simply blame the victim. Yes...Jews feel victimized...my lord, how could they NOT feel that way! But we see all the time that victims of abuse most often turn right around and practice against others, naturally weaker others, the same sorts of crimes and persecution as they suffered.....a true radical always goes for the ROOT of the problem...he does not jump in blaming a ten-year old without a good hard look at the parents....Christians gave birth to Israel, not Jews.



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