|Re: Tehran Threatens to use Nuclear weapons on itself...|
- Tuesday, November 15 2011, 22:47:26 (UTC)|
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> proliferation? Does that mean that the United States can have ten million warheads and it isn't "proliferation" because no one else has any?
>And the solution is to have more of them? To allow every country on earth to have them? Will that make the world safer?
...let's look at reality: the countries which have them don;t fight each other...even if two nuclear powers decided to go at it, everyone else would get involved to stop them because no one wins a modern war, certainly not a ten million megaton one...if Vietnam had had a nuclear bomb they would have been safe...same for Iraq and now Iran...you want peace in the region then everyone in the region must have them...not because THEY want them but because they are being threatened by the United States and its attack dog Israel...if they load up with conventional weapons they will get conventional wars which they will lose because no one has the guns America does...they need unconventional weapons because no one wants that kind of war.
> if Saddam had nuclear weapons they never would have attacked...never.
>Why not? The US can strike down a plane as soon as it takes off! And what would prevent it from turning Baghdad into another Hiroshima?
...because the bomb used against Hiroshima was a nothing dud compared to what they have now...
> but we've decided kicking the shit out of weaker people is good business
>You mean the business of taking money out of the treasury to spend on wars? Then with the proliferation of nuclear weapons, especially in the Middle East, this business might become even easier. There might be cold war all over again.
...better than all these hot wars.
> Iran MUST have nuclear weapons if they want peace.
>Will it stop at Iran? All countries in the region will rush to have them. Is that the road to peace?
...yes. The only way you can make peace when faced with a warmongering US on the rampage...you have to have something to make America think twice, like North Korea has.
> And no one makes a "limited" bomb
>Why not? They customize one according to the target.
...no one has them...and there's no such thing as a small nuclear weapon....you can defeat the military of a country, but never its people...you can only blow them all up...and when you do/ that you rot from the inside...which is how we got here.
> I'll bet that if a country, or person, decided to hold the world hostage by demanding ten billion dollars to NOT set off a nuclear bomb, even on his own ass...the world would pay up quickly!
>Sounds like Dr. Evil! ...and despite this you encourage all countries to have them? Won't that increase the likelihood of a crisis like the one you mentioned above? What if, for example, such a bomb ends up in the hands of a terrorist?
...no one wants to die unless they see no future. The lesson for the rich people of the world is that you should not push people up against a wall...take everything away from them and you make life less dear, kill their children and they'll want to kill yours. You can abuse people and then tell them that if they fight back THEY will be the cause of more abuse.
> North Korea thumbs its nose at the West, as Saddam could have, because it has nuclear weapons
>I don't think North Korea is a high priority for the west, neither would the west behave any differently towards it if it didn't have nuclear weapons... I don't know.
...of course it would. We're never going to attack North Korea, especially now...but we want them there so we can scare the American people....no Christian wants to kill the Devil....we need Devils in order to be "moral".
> how come he only bombed his own people with them...why not Israel...why not let them loose on American troops?
>I think he pathetically attempted to throw some bombs at Israel in 1991.
...he did...and one Israeli child die, from suffocation because her mask was on wrong. If he didn't do anything them, what were we supposed to be afraid of?
> No...the only ones insane enough to use those things against women and children were Christians...no Muslim nation would dream of such a thing.
>So those “Christians” you are referring to have the intelligence to invent sophisticated weaponry while it is the Muslims who have the required wisdom to handle them safely?
...to handle them safely, yes....I worry about spent fuel rods and leaks from concrete bunkers and leaks into oceans and leaks because nuclear plants need tons of water...but worry that someone is going drop one or set it off deliberately...no.
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