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Re: You unmasked yourself to be a REAL IGNORANT!
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Wednesday, February 27 2008, 20:23:07 (CET)
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Jumblat wrote:
>Pancho wrote:
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>How come the Jews, who lived at the same time as the Assyrians...whose Moses lived at the same time as Assyrian kings...whose David lived at the same time as all out kings, whose stories are no older than Gilgamesh...how come the Jews remembered their ancient history AND their modern history...how come THEY didn't need anybody telling them about Solomon but we need the Euros to tell us about Tukulti-Ninurta?
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>The ancient people of the Middle East and among them the Assyrians , the religion played a very important role in their lives, but after the fall of Nineveh and our people loosing political power to others . When Christianity swept the Middle East and our people converted to be Christians who were true believers that sent missionaries all over the world up to China in order to spread the MESSAGE and that of our lord JESUS only.

..there is no evidence that our people converted to Christianity...none at all. The church has fabricated the myth that people ran and JUMPED into Jesus...that's bullshit...that time is long gone now and we have no evidence...but we have plenty of independent accounts of just what the Church did to people in South America, the South Sea Islands, Africa and Asia...they MURDERED people into Jesus...sure, individuals, usually outcasts converted...but ENTIRE civilizations did NOT convert willingly...we have plenty of EVIDENCE for that.
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>That is the reason the Assyrian people lost interest in NATIONAL things , but were dedicated Christians, a religion that DOESN'T BELIEVE in NATIONALISM ,

..to the Jews Solomon and Moses were not "national" issues...they were also about religion...in Assyrian culture the kings were ALSO religious figures, just like King David...how come your so-called Assyrians ONLY knew Solomon, Moses and David but FORGOT their own RELIGIOUS leaders?


but believe in the brotherhood of humanity as a whole all these things made them not pay a full attention to the EARTHLY MATTERS as Assyrian nationalism EXCEPT as I always said that even the notion of Christianity was not to revive any nation including their own, some ASSYRIANS in their writings mentioned their ASSYRIANISM with pride.

...you're overlooking the point.
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>The case of the JEWS was a different one, these people never changed their religion in the past 2600 years, and their religion is strongly connected in their tribes who constituted their JEWISH nationalism which is " The Israelites felt a national consciousness based on the concept of common descent from ONE MAN ( 1).

...right. And if they HAD changed their religion...they would not BE Jews any longer...the same is true today...a Jew can be Israeli, if he denies yahwe...but he can NOT be Jewish...if you now claim to be a "nation" and not a religion, then ANYONE can be Assyrian in ANY way they choose to be...but this still isn't the issue...the so-called Assyrians FORGOT the very essence of their identity...and now want to tell us they "rememebred"...just like they "found" that missing "A"...come on.
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>So, the Jews kept their TORAH from one generation to another , and if you read it , it is in some how history of their tribes.

...our ancient writing ALSO listed our history, achievements, religion, kings, wars, architecture, in other words the entire record of our history...which the Jews KEPT...and we FORGOT and had to be reminded by Euros..and in all that time your so-called Assyrians REMEMBERED and recited and PRAISED every single fucking thing the JEWS DID!
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>Our people, didn't have a common book since they became Christians, their book was the BIBLE the Old Testament and the NEW one


.of course they had common books...the entire history of their growth and development, pholosophy, legal codes, wars disasters etc...we had it ALL and forgot it ALL, except for what the JEWS WROTE about us in THEIR bible...they made THEIR "history" OUR HISTORY...until the Euros came along.

, which is basically about the Jews mostly. And also, not that we didn't have a book, but we changed our writing system that is completely different than the old complicated one with over 600 signs to use the Canaanite script,

..we did that BEFORE the end of empire...there was plenty of time to write the cunieform into Aramaic..how come we praise ourselves for "preserving" Greek learning...how come we wrote everything else BUT our own ancient history?


in that case our people because of lack of reading the cuneiform it was impossible to them to understand what they kept in the Ashur Banipal Library in one hand and on the other it was a period that as Christians considered to be not to their interest period.

...no way. Noce try. Cunieform was written and READ up to 200 AD. There were plenty of people who could read it from the time the empire collapsed until then..about 800 years...it isn't that they didn't know how to read..it's that they FORGOT..once the cities crumbled and sands covered them all, people FORGOT their history....
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>PANCHO WROTE AGAIN :
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>How come even we remember and recite and respect THEIR ancient history AND their New Testament but FORGOT our own ancient history? How come?
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>The answer is easy, to some extend I already mentioned above, and could summed up to the following:
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>- Adopting a new writing system which CUT our relation with the past for not knowing or able to read our old ( cuneiform )writings, and

...these are just lame excuses.
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>- The Christianity which is a religion that UNITE all the people of universe on the Christian beliefs UNLIKE Jewish religion or the Islam , who have their RELIGION and NATIONALISM go hand in hand together.

...this is all from your Church...excuses after the fact.
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>( 1 ) For more information, read The Might that was Assyria , by H.W.F. Saggs, 1984 - page 124

...who me? I already "know".



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