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Posted by ahteist (Guest) - Sunday, August 1 2010, 15:16:47 (UTC)
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>## I agree that the world is addicted to this economic order. Bush himself described it as a "addiction to oil." And the best historical example of such an economic system and its effect on Iraq is what happened to China 150 years ago. Just as Iraq had the first (1991) and second (2003) oil wars with the US China similarily has two Opium wars fought against the British from 1839 to 1860. The name of the game is to create control of the world economicaly and then to control the source of that addiction.

...xactly....and to get free of this drug we have to recognize the game, not what backs the paper money...it´the notion that paper money HAS to be backed by something...something considered porecious and, as you, that can be controlled by somebody. Paper money, value, has to be tied to human labor and the goods produced by human labor....nothing more precious.
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> A good comparison of Iraq and China is the addict
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>>The biggest reason Greece can´t change is because their own money-crazies have the government by the short hairs and, the international money-pimps would punish the country even more, devalue everything and leave it a smoking ruin( as America has tried to do with Cuba)....international banks are the real rulers, not politicians and certainly not the people...and they own the Media and school boards etc.
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>>It really is "that simple" to eventually get off this false-value notion where our lives are owned by private banks...but it will take some much more serious crisis to begin..and it will come.
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>>Once slavery was the way of the world and then Feudalism and then capitalism which quickly degenerated into counterfeit money and sleight of hand tricks and hedge funds and all sorts of non-productive ways to make gobs of money...but the People are suffering and will only suffer more...and borrowing even more from bankers, no matter how much we trim "spending", will never solve the basic problem which is that a few private people control the world´s wealth and hence the ability of all of us to feed our children...it is that simple and basic and yes, it will change someday....this system has exhausted itself and spread ruin, not wealth, over the earth.
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>## There are environmental repercussions caused by our petrodollar backed economy. The bankers are busy trying to make a smooth transition from a blavk gol backed dollar to a green backed dollar.

let them....the problem is not what backs it...it´s that all governments are forced into debt, just as most citizens...even billionaires have debt...and bankers make their money by multiplying debt and collecting that precious interest..but even that isn´t enough for them any more...they don´t want to wait thirty years to collect the debt on the house you borrowed to buy...they want to gamble, they want to play the market they want to bet on which raindrop will fall faster...or how long your ffulty brakes will hold out before you crash...it was always a crime the way they made money...and crimminals never know to say "enough"...they can´t.
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>>True wealth relates to quality of life for the majority of the people, not a few billionaires. I don´t consider crumbs, no matter how fine they are, from the groaning tables of the rich to be "just compensation" for everythign else they have cost us....in real terms people aremaking less money and working ever harder, with both parents working...and it won´t stay this way...it will either get worse or have to get better, nothing remains static, and the way things have been trending, it will only get worse...and doesn´t matter a rat´s ass whether the game is played with gold, silver, oil or cheese, it´s the GAME that´s the problem.
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>### As you said it will have to get worse before it gets better. The world is waking up and looking at pricing comodities and even oil (e.g. Iran and the oil bourse) in other regional currencies. There will come another economic crisis and a tipping point and the US dollar will collapse overnight. The bankers will no longer be able to put the system back together again and the world will be freed from the enforced US economic order.

....so long as the world also learns anew how to value paper money....and never again to say "we don´t have the money for health care...or potholes...or schools. Money is JUST paper with no intrinsic value at all....but my need for a piece of bread and my willingness to work to produce it, or the paper I get in exchange for the work I do, is a constant and will never change...so long as there is wheat and people. Maybe private individuals can go on borrowing from bankers but governments and countires have to stop...the people are enslaving themselves and impoverishing THEMSELVES.

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if cars ran on goat cheese... aheist - Friday, July 30 2010, 14:16:00 (UTC)
- Re: if cars ran on goat cheese... Tiglath - 07/31 01:02
  - yes but.... aheist - 07/31 02:10
    - Re: yes but.... Tiglath - 07/31 08:52
      - Re: yes but.... aheist - 07/31 13:56
        Re: yes but.... Tiglath - 08/01 09:43
        Re: yes but.... ahteist - 08/01 15:16
        Re: yes but.... Tiglath - 08/12 14:43
        but yes... atheist - 08/12 15:35

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