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=> Tiglath...do YOU agree..........

Tiglath...do YOU agree..........
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Saturday, September 25 2010, 13:51:25 (UTC)
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...that rebellion by Christians in the Ottoman Empire first began a few centuries back?

...that Christians took sides with invading Russian armies from the earliest times and along with them committed atrocities, murder and theft and confiscation of Muslims lands etc., including the forced removal of Muslims from their homes, making refugess out of them etc?

...that these same conditions prevailed at the start of WW I...that is, that Christian militias collected arms and banded together to fight on behalf of the Allies against their own government? (please remember that weīre not talking about irrestible WINDS or how fair or nice the government was, just that it was the LEGAL government etc. Native Americans didnīt much care for the government of the United States but that was no defense when they rebelled against it.)

...that during an insurrection governments are justified in using whatever means necessary to survive...and that Turks should not be held to a higher standard than say Germans...or the British...or the Americans (putting down the South in the American Civil War wasnīt "nice" either).

...that the Turks have explained all this many many times and said how unfortunate it all was but that THEY did not instigate either the attacks by the Russians in the 17th century OR WW I...and that no one who advocates genocide has ever mentioned the massacres of innocent Muslims by Christian militias...not to mention the totaly illegal war waged against Turkey in the first place just because it was a "sick old man....of Europe"....with lots and lots of oil?

...one last thing and that is that it is extrememly important who starts things....if I kill someone, itīs murder...but if someone else STARTED an attack on me, and I kill him, itīs self-defense. It seems to me that to ask that we not consider who started that war and the insurrection but only focus on what the Turks did, is so prejudiced and biased and illogical that Iīm surprised you would go that far to justify your claims. Who started what is the CORE of the issue....or a central one.

...any agreement here?



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