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Typical bullcrap by these nationalists
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Friday, November 21 2008, 2:15:50 (CET)
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I saw this on Fred Aprim's personal website and couldn't help but laugh and had to say something about it.

"Christian female students are warned to wear Islamic veils upon entering university campuses. Many students have stopped attending classes altogether. Assyrian liquor stores and hair salons are targets of bombings and vandalisms. Christian children are kidnapped for after a large ransoms. Christian women are kidnapped and killed if they did not wear the traditional Islamic veil."

First of all this kind of stuff did not exist in the past and is only a new thing. I know people who went to Iraq just recently and said they saw Christian women dancing at parties and weddings and wearing short skirts. How many Muslim students have stopped going to class out of fear? How many Muslims are harrassed in the U.S. on college campuses, can you guess? How many Muslim businesses have been bombed and closed? And how many Muslim women have been attacked for wearing the head scarf? None of this bullshit is new nor an exception but Muslims have suffered far worse than your few Christians in Iraq. By your own mouths you people admitt that the sanctions did not affect Christians in iraq for the most part.

"In north of Baghdad, a young 14 years Assyrian was literally slaughtered, his head and limbs were cut off. Another 14 years young boy was crucified in Basra."

How many Muslim boys and girls have been executed, murdered,kidnapped, robbed etc? Wasn't your god crucified? So why not die the same way? After all you asked for this war and your christians have brought destruction to Mesopotamia.

"Assyrian Christians living in Mosul and other Assyrian neighborhoods in Baghdad are threatened to either leave or be killed."

Arabs and Kurds have not only been threatened but have been kisnapped, killed and raped, what's your point? Your Christian marines have killed innocent people in Iraq and raped women/girls, anything to say about that or is that acceptable so long as it's Muslims?

"Christian religious figures are not immune from the Islamists. Priests no longer wear their clerical robes in public. Fr. Polous Iskandar was kidnapped, and beheaded. His remains were dumped in one of Mosul streets. Father George of Mosul's St. Mary's Assyrian Church of the East was forced to leave his parish and escape after threats on his life were made if he did not pay the recommended 'donation' to the 'Islamic fighters'."

Muslim clerics, imams and sheikhs have been killed as well. This kind of stuff did not exist and I don't even believe that it is Muslims doing this because it is not allowed to kill and torture monks, priests, rabbis, etc. But this kind of stuff only came into existense after your Christians invaded Iraq and you jerks support them.

"I have been compiling pages upon pages of evidence illustrating the murders of Assyrians in Iraq for the last four years. The list includes all the churches that have been attacked and bombed in this period."

Yeah, yeah, we seen your "evidences", it's all one and the same, but I can bring you cases after cases of Mosques being bombed and destroyed and I can bring real evidence of how many Iraqis have died in the last 5 years alone. Again, what's your point?

"On June 30, 2006, author Rosie Malek-Yonan, made that list part of her testimony on Capitol Hill before a Congressional Committee of the 109th Congress on religious freedom regarding the massacre and persecution of the Assyrians in Iraq by Islamists and Kurds. If you are interested to read that list, please see the Article Section on my site as the list is broken down by year.

More problems in Northern Iraq"

Yeah, I read it and laughed at it too just as I laugh at all your clowns. All of you sound one and the same and are worthless. The only problems for Christians in Iraq is the fault of both you people and your Christian/Zionist invaders, so stop crying. My ancestors lived among Muslims for centuries without fear or being killed. My parents speak, read and write Aramaic and all lived among Arabs, Kurds, Turkmen, etc. There are many more who lived and had success in Iraq. Let me guess they were all sell outs huh? The truth is that you people had no problem living as "Christians" in Mesopotamia under Muslims and "nationalism" or "Assyrianism" was unknown and not very interesting until the discoveries and the Brits and other westerners decided to use you and you people agreed to betray your nations. Today you are crying to your Christian Americans who themselves are murderers and thieves about wanting recognition, and rights but forget that you had more when you lived as loyal citizens under the Ottomans and Arabs.

It seems like what you morons are crying for today is less than what you had in the past under Islam. Even during all those centuries, you people didn't achieve much except build churches and boast about your Christian identity. Suddenly you realized that having a nation as "Christians" wouldn't work so though you were wise and decided to take on the Assyrian name in order to fool others and take Iraq. The only thing you idiots forgot was that the ancients were long gone and their history was not known to you guys. There is no link between you and them. Speaking Aramaic does not prove anything because this was not their language to begin with. Living in Northern Iraq don't mean anything either because people come and go. Last but not least, you never be true and direct descendants of a people who themselves were a mixture of peoples. Are there descendants of Assyrians today? Sure there are and not just of Assyrians but of all the Mesopotamians and they are what we have today in Iraq.

What label or name one chooses to identify with is one thing but making demands or going too far with it is another and you people are definetly not convincing. There is nothing Assyrian about you people and I would respect you guys if you at least had the interests in studying and learning about the ancients, but you nationalists don't care about them because you are trying to use them to gain something that really isnt yours or at least just for you. If the Brits would have named you people by another name of an ancient Mesopotamian peoples, you guys would not be calling yourselves Assyrians. Do you realize how weak you are, yet have the nerves to attack Chaldeans for prefering to be what they want to be?



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