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=> why do we have to prove we are assyrians....?

why do we have to prove we are assyrians....?
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Tuesday, June 25 2013, 20:09:23 (UTC)
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...of course we can't. But even to say we are the indigenous people, of anywhere, is absurd. The Greeks in Greece today are not THE Greeks....not the ancients or even related to them in any meaningful way...when we accept that they are Greeks, what we mean is that they are born in a country named Greece and are therefore "Greek"...but we know we don;t mean they are direct descendants of Socrates....

Same with the English...the are English only in the sense that they are born in a country of that name...they also aren't direct descendants of King Arthur....now, if Iraq had been named Assyria instead...we could speak of "Assyrians"...but that would mean anybody born in "Assyria"..and it would not matter of which religion...at least thenm we could speak of "Assyrians" as if they existed...but, we all know they wouldn't be considered direct descendants of Ashurbanipal..any more than any Frenchwoman would think to call herself a direct descendant of Joan d'Arc.

Sine there is no Assyria, but only Iraq, no one has any rational basis to say he or she is Assyrian...none. And we certainly can't claim to be the indigenous people of Iraq, even if it was called Assyria...just as no German today thinks he is a direct descendant of Charlemagne, or would ever say such a stupid thing...but us? We SAY just such stupid things!

Not having an actual country named Assyria and therefore unable to prove we are Assyrians...we go that one extra, stupid, step further and say we are the INDIGENOUS people of Iraq, AND we are the direct descendants of Ashurbanipal....a claim to direct descent no Englishman would dare to make, or anyone else, claiming direct descent from people who occupied those lands thousands of years ago.

Since there is today a Germany, France, Italy etc. (but no Assyria), those born in those countries, or nationalized, can say they are OF those countries, that they are Germans, or French, or Italians....but, true to our national stupidity, we decided that since we have no such nation, or national identity we will make up for it by sidestepping the entire issue of nations and nationality, leaping over the entire mess to a time, thousands of years ago, and claim to be DIRECT descendants of the ancient Assyrians...so, take that!, you other stupid people who don't have the sense we do, to claim DIRECT descent from a people and time you know nothing of and can prove nothing about, relating to your direct connection with them.

Having no proof, we INVENT a relationship with the ancients as compensation for our refusal to be nationals of Iraq, the country of our birth and citizenship...or Iran etc....something the Italians, for instance, know better than to attempt and, don't NEED to because there IS an Italy.....or a Germany, France etc. I suppose an Italian, especially if born in Rome, could claim to be a direct descendant of Julius Caesar...as we claim to be descended from Ashurbanipal.....but no self-respecting Italian, even though born a "Roman" would dare do such a stupid thing...but we would....we RUSH to be that stupid!



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