The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> you cana ctually see how THIS piece was used to make bullshit...

you cana ctually see how THIS piece was used to make bullshit...
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Thursday, March 22 2012, 23:42:19 (UTC)
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...found an assyrian nationalism site which used this quote from the noted Assyriologist Saggs to try to make their point...

^ Saggs, pp. 290, "The destruction of the Assyrian Empire did not wipe out its population. They were predominantly peasant farmers, and since Assyria contains some of the best wheat land in the Near East, descendants of the Assyrian peasants would, as opportunity permitted, build new villages over the old cities and carried on with agricultural life, remembering traditions of the former cities. After seven or eight centuries and after various vicissitudes, these people became Christians. These Christians, and the Jewish communities scattered amongst them, not only kept alive the memory of their Assyrian predecessors but also combined them with traditions from the Bible."

...first off there is no meantion of the Persians and then the Greeks who did more than farm wheat....but thatīs not the big silly here...that last sentence screams out for clarification...it is exactly what Dr Joseph and others poiunt out as the mistake...thye big one...Saggs writes that...

"These Christians...not only kept alive the memory of their Assyrian predecessors but also combined them with traditions from thje Bible"...

first of all Christianity came after 600 years...and there is no evidence that any sort of an Assyrian self-awareness was maintained all that time...Dr Joseph cites authors who back this up...very quickly cuneiform and Akkadian were forgotten...how do we know that? Because the assyrians never translated all their rich culture and history INTO Aramaic!

Dr Joseph points out with the myth of Jonah and the Whale that the modern assyrians (and Saggs is of the modern era) THOUGHT the story of Jonah was about "remembering their ancestrors"...but it wasnīt...it was about telling the Jews that EVEN the nasty Ninevites were forgiven when begging yahew for it, so anyoen else, even as bad as the Ninevites, could expect forgiveness...this is NOT "remembering their ancerstros"...this is remembering the BIBLE! And every other king and assyrian bit was in the bible, with no special information JUST for the assyrians...and the traditons they added were all Christian traditions, not Assyrian.

Anyway, Dr Joseph handles this best...and that{s because this is his FIELD...his field is the history of the modern MidEast ...he is NOT an Assyriologist and Saggs and Parpola are NOT historians of the modern MidEast....



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