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Posted by parhad ( on October 04, 2001 at 10:52:58:

Has Parhad Read the Quran ?

Posted by Mar Polous Tleeqa on Wednesday, 3 October 2001, at 2:51 p.m.

A frequent Parhadism we are subjected to goes something like this:

Your mad-man of a god of the 2 testicles tells everyone to kill everyone else, including "he who pisseth against a wall." Your insane Jew-god commanded the slaughter of innocent Canaanites and Jebusites, etc, etc, etc.

I'm sure you've all heard it (over and over again, he just won't shut up.)

But has he ever read the Quran? Apparently not, since he has also claimed numerous times.... me one place, just one place, where the Quran justifies murder and killing.

>>>I've read the Koran, it was the Testicles I couldn't get through. Islam looks and sounds a lot like them old Prophets....I don't follow any of those religions...I just don't see what Christianity has to be proud of, or Judaism, that they feel so smugly superior to Islam.

Well, here are some examples for him:

1. (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

In the above verse the great prophet of Islam, Mohammed, is giving step by step instructions on how to torture and kill the unbelievers if they don't follow Islam. He is clearly instructing Muslims to commit cold-blooded murder in the name of religion.

>>>You must be joking. In the first place Mohammad said that Isalm is the final refinement of them Old was not a New religion, as all Muslims know...that's why He and they were so tolerant of the people of that damn book. But this example you sight doesn't compare to the Old testicles at all...hell even a mordern manual for warfare is bloodier than this.

2. (Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first terrorist attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents.

>>>FOUR???? FOUR???? FOUR!!!!! How's about ten thousand in one night, on the eve of the sacred feast of St Bartholemew in France when the tolling bells calling the "faithful" to prayer were used as the signal for the Catholics of France to fall upon their Protestant neighbors and kill men women ands children, as Christians seem to enjoy doing, and we aren't talking about dessert dwellers of centuries ago but the civilized Christian nation of France of a few hundred years ago...a CHRISTIAN nation...FOUR!!! FOUR???? FOUR????

By stating the above verse, Mohammed completely absolved himself from all blame for having murdered innocents. The most insidious and devilish implication of this verse is that God is completely justifying Mohammed’s murder of the innocent Meccans.

>>>How do you know of their "innocence"? What crimes did the children of France commit, or those of the Midianites??

The import of this verse is that killing and violence are JUSTIFIED for Muslims, because they are doing it by divine ordinance! It is a religious duty of every Muslim to murder anyone who comes in the way of Islam. Since it is also the duty of every Muslim to ensure that the entire world is converted to Islam by force if necessary, one must directly conclude that it is the religious duty of Muslims to kill all those who are non-Muslim. This conclusion is derived directly from the supreme edict of Allah, who admonishes that even the Muslim who feels it is wrong to kill, must murder in the name of Allah, otherwise he is not a true Muslim. Over and above this, Mohammed is hypocritically implying that warfare is hateful to him, but he participated in it because God ordained it.

>>>What a poor apologist you are...either that or you are supremely ignorant. And just what were the Popes doing leading armies to kill and rape and win back the revenues from the papal cities that rebelled against their corrupt rule? You mean to tell me there isn't more, whole tons more murder and plenty of bloodshed in the Christian past? How do you think Christianity spread to the New think the natives here and in Africa accepted this stuff willingly? You think they weren't killed and abused by Christians seeking to dominate the world? You are silly.

3. (Koran 69:30-37) "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise.. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful."

This verse is in reference to the prisoners that Mohammed held for ransom after the battle of Badr. This battle occurred on March 17, 623 AD. This is the month of Ramadan—another sacred month for the Muslims! In this battle, Mohammed and his followers killed at least 70 innocent merchants from the Quraysh tribe of Mecca and slaughtered several hundred soldiers who came forward to defend them.

>>>>Killed SEVENTY??? And fought with SOLDIERS??? You're making things worse and worse for yourself...find a verse that compares to the many in the Bible about wiping out entire populations AND their animals...go on. Remember, the Prophet died of old age, surrounded by his family and friends...YOUR Prophetr had to be torn apart on command from his most loving father....go away.

Here God the "Merciful" is saying that all the non-believers deserve to be killed! In addition, God is conveniently commenting that whatever loot Mohammed has plundered is "lawful and good" because it was done in service to God. So murder, rape, plunder and destruction are all perfectly legal with the Muslim God as long as they are done in the name of Islam! Mohammed is also insidiously making himself seem very kind for having spared the lives of the prisoners, when in fact he only let them live so he could ransom their lives for more money. In today’s world this is called "taking hostages" and defines "Terrorism" of the worst kind.

>>>Such an ass you are...but you do the better job of dismantling yourself than I ever could. Wish you would engage some of the Muslim scholars who've been appearing on the radio....would they have a field day with you...instead you remain hidden at aina cause you can say whatever you want to there and I can't get at you...silly man.

4. (Koran 69:30-37) "(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in God the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat."

The above verses from the Koran prove that Muslims are specifically instructed not to tolerate unbelievers. It directly states that people who do not believe in Mohammed and the Islamic God are to be tortured and murdered.. Not only does this verse clearly implicate that unbelievers must be tortured and killed, it goes on further to state prescribed methods for committing torture. The horrific acts mentioned above are in practice even today in Islamic countries. In fact, in India, Muslims tortured the Sikh Gurus and their families exactly as prescribed by the Koran. For example, the Sikh guru Tegh Bahadur was imprisoned in a cage like a wild animal, when he refused to forsake his religion for Islam. Three of his disciples were murdered in front of his eyes. One of them was Bhai Mati Das. He was sawed alive into little pieces. The other was wrapped up in cotton and burnt alive. Bhai Dyala, the third one, was boiled alive in a cauldron. Guru Tegh Bahadur himself was brutally tortured and killed in a similar fashion. One wonders at the mercy of "The all beneficent Allah" who enjoys watching the roasted burnt flesh of hapless innocents falling off their bones.

>>>In the Christian West traitors had their intestines slowly extracted from a hole made in their side, and roasted over a fire...they were then hanged but not killed, cut down to have their chest slit open and the living heart cut out of them, which was tossed onto the same fire roasting their shit...the body was then tied to four horses who ripped the limbs off, after which the head was cut off and placed on a pole...the rest of the mess burned and the ashes scattered every which way. All through this God's representative on earth stood there chanting prayers of gratitude to the Most Merciful on high who had brought this deed to light thus sparing the Monarch etc and etc. You are making me sick.

5. (Koran 5: 33-34) "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is forgiving, merciful."

>>>And is depleted uranium a fitting reward for the children born this year in Iraq, who will face disease and starvation brought to them by the most Christian West for daring to be born "unbelievers"?

6. (Koran 22: 19-22) "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid will be poured down their heads.

>>>Naplam perhaps....two atom bombs, Christian Bombs???

Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

7. (Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire."

The above verses clearly state extreme terrorist activities, as they contain nothing but detailed recipes of horrific torture. Cutting off the hands and feet of individuals and then making them walk and jump, pouring boiling waters over their victims, making them drink it, burning them alive, inserting hot iron rods into their bodies, dismemberment and disembowelment, genital mutilation etc. are common Islamic practices.

>>>They are not common at all.

I have mentioned only a few of the verses from the Koran to show that Islam is nothing but an excuse to legalize terrorism, genocide, massacre and other criminal activities. Many other verses that demonstrate these specific qualities, are to be found throughout the Koran . As Muslims worldwide regard the Koran to be the ultimate holy book, it is followed to the word. Their daily lives are guided specifically by such passages from the Koran . Moreover, the terrorist, lecherous and criminal activities described in the Koran are considered to be the sacred words of God. Is it any wonder that mindless Muslims all over the world, justify their criminal activities of destruction, loot, torture, rape and murder by pointing to the Koran?

>>>President Bush doesn't agree with you...neither do a growing number of Americans who have become interested in Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and has joyful and loving adherents around the world, as does Christianity. You are the mirror image of the worst in Islam, the worst in Human beans who seek to justify their own murderous hatred by quoting "scripture".

Was September 11th a surprise to Assyrians - we who have been living with this crap for 1,400 years ?

>>>What is a surprise was that you ever expected to prosper by turning your checks at all...a boy scout troop could have had its way with put yourselves and your families into a fire and now want to blame the flames.

Neither should you be surprised that we have Parhads among us. Those sellouts have always been around.

>>>This sellout doesn't hide or run from you or anyone else.

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