Posted by panch from pool0343.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (209.179.251.88) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:24PM :
In Reply to: Lilly et Fred posted by Julia from dhcp100049.res-hall.northwestern.edu (199.74.100.49) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 11:41AM :
: It seems to me that even though Fred has a lot of shit in his life like anyone else, he's not really interested in telling us about it (besides anything sculpture related).
+++What are you...another Aprim? I haven't told stuff about my Life...are you serious? Silly question.
That's not what he's here for. That's why when someone like lilly says some serious stuff about her past, fred doesn't know what to do with that information.
+++She is bullshitting ALL of you and you can't see it! Is it my fault you're still in college afraid of your parents? In twenty years, when I'm 130 and you're still 23...we'll talk.
He's just here to promote Assyrian unity and not cultivate some relationships beyond what happens here. I know Assyrians are in some way all united, but as we know that unity can be kind of flimsy. Political unity can only be so cohesive...what would be wonderful fred is if you shut up and let the people who care about you become closer to you without you stepping all over them with your punny words.
+++I don't WANT you or anyone to get "close" to me...are you NUTS??? You are such a treakly bottle of vinegar...you old Puss.
You always say that women are so much better than men blah blah blah...then let's see that.
+++Do you think having a whang makes you a man? Do you think having a pooter makes you a woman? YOU aren't women at all...you are still tied to men and their definitions and expectations...no matter how "freely" they pass you around like the Hells Angels do with THEIR broads. You are mildly rebellious...and a Rebel is just trying to fight against the chains that bind her...a revolutionary cuts the rope and walks away...Free...no angst bullshit...no twisting in the wind and downing copious amounts of COUGH SYRUP...fer chrissakes!
You don't have to be this callous ass when someone tells you shit about their life.
++++Keep your shit.
Ifyou don't care to know about it, then politely say so...but don't assume things about their personality. When lilly said all she did about her life, it's not like the Assyrian who chimes, 'what about simele.
+++She MAKES IT UP!!!
' Personally, and i'll say this again, what keeps me coming here is not so much the quest for unity but for the fact that i like the people here. i know i like you fred, and i know that a bunch of other people here do...and maybe you don't know what to do with that.
+++Yeah...it IS a new feeling...I just can't handle it I guess....bitch!
Maybe it's easier for you to make a joke and play with words and then log off your computer...but that can be insensitive and mean. At least consider what i'm saying here and don't joke your way out of it, please? for the sake of all the women in the world who really like you for who you are?
++++You are "manthings" ...NOT women. Not my kind at least. I don't go to male 'sensitivity" seminars...I don't bang tomtoms in a jungle...if I were a woman I sure as shit wouldn't do what you do either. Men run your lives as much as they ever did...they just convinced you you WANT them run this way...that's what you got out of Liberation.
If either you or Lilly of the Alli had an inkling you wouldn't bear the expressions you do or hide where you do behind lofty sentiments and research-my-ass.
-- panch
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