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In this list of "Demands !", Hanna pretty well encapsulates the Christian Assyrian argument.

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Re: Assyrian Right for Independence

Posted By: Hanna Hajjar (ACC46B39.ipt.aol.com)
Date: Tuesday, 21 October 2003, at 1:12 p.m.

In Response To: The Kaldani – Suryani – Ashuri National Conference (Fred Aprim)

It is about time that one of the Assyrian delegates in this conference stands up at the conference podium, and declares the following:

+++Declarations and facts are very important to these people.

1. Assyria is under occupation by Arabs and Kurds.

+++There is no "Assyria"...hasn't been for a long, long time. There are no Arabs there anyway, they are Iraqis and Kurds...also descendants of the same ancient people we claim as ancestors...these are the hurt feelings of a religious minority trying to dress up, that's all.

2. Assyrians want independence the same way Palestinian Arabs want it, and the same way Kurds want it.

+++Assyrians, or rather the closest thing to the descendants of those people...had independence...they now live under occupation.

3. Assyrians want a SMALL piece of their ancestral homeland, and they are willing to relinquish the rest of their homeland to their neighbors in return for recognition, and as a good will gesture to live together in peace and as good neighbors.

+++Never happen and a good thing too. You won't get a small driveway in Iraq or anywhere else you don't earn it. Your parents lost the family mansion...you can't demand a small part of it as "compensation" It's gone.

4. If any Arab or Kurd denounces the Assyrian right for independence, then they would also be denouncing the right of Palestinian Arabs, and Kurds for any kind of independence.

+++The country you live in and make these DIClarations from denied the origibal owners an entire continent...the Christian forces there now fit the description of of an Occupying Forse much better than the original Muslims ever did. You don't seem to mind occupation itself on principle...just don't like it when it burns you.

5. If their position is rejecting Assyrian independence, fine with us, we will accept living under their occupation as long as they reject the independence of Palestinian Arabs, and Kurds. Let them issue an official statement indiscriminately denouncing all kinds of independence, be it Assyrians, Palestinian Arabs, or Kurds.

++++These people had a sovereign nation that was invaded...as do the Iraqis. No one alive today had anything to do with the downfall of Nineveh or the Muslim conquest 1300 years ago. You're being foolish...but then that's National Work. Kurds have worked hard, made sacrifices and refused to run for what they have today...they don't issue "Demands" from Chicago or LaLa land.

6. Assyrians are not asking anything different than what the Arabs and Kurds are asking. And as the indigenous people of northern Mesopotamia, Assyrians have more rights to that land than the them, because it is the Assyrian ancestral heartland, Assyrians were the first people there since the dawn of civilization, while the Arabs and Kurds came into that region as invaders.

+++Assyrians were invaders long before the Arabs came...who came after the Christians invaded the land. None of these religions were from the region...they attacked "Ashur" 700 years after you dumped him. People of that region who are Christian have no claim can offer no proof that they're Assyrian and the only Assyrians around...no one will ever take your word for it...neither would you.

7. The least they can do is to give the Assyrians a small piece of our land and keep the rest, there is enough space for everyone, and this is how Assyrians, Arabs, Kurds and Turkomen could live in peace together.

+++It isn't "your" land and it never was. It once belonged to the ancient Assyrians who invaded other people's territories to get it and kept it as long as they could...that's what made it "their" land...just as it's the land of those who took it from them. This is so common a thing and so well understood that refusing to accept goes a long way in explaining your peculiarities.

Then at least we would know that everyone is being treated evenhandedly with no discrimination.

+++The Iraqi people today, with your blessings, are the most recent to be discriminated against and attacked by occupying forces. For a man so well aware of things that happened 2500 and 1300 years ago, you seem oddly ignorant of what is taking place under your nose and with your good wishes and cash today...this very minute.

But until then; Assyrian is our ancestral homeland, and since it is not ruled by Assyrians then it is under occupation by foreigners.

+++Like Iraq is today...nothoing to say about that? Opportunist is your ethnicity...you are part of a huge tribe.

Hanna Hajjar
10/21/2003

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