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Re: Getting It Right...Or Wrong...But...
Posted by Andy Younan (Guest) jonah2164@yahoo.com - Monday, December 15 2003, 21:16:03 (EST)
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Farid,

>Look at the sheer utility, the practical good sense of adopting Christianity as means of Imperial control.

Come on, Farid. There's more to the story than that. It took a good three centuries before Christianity was adopted by Rome. Until then it was tolerated or discriminated against or persecuted, depending on the decade and the mood of the emperor. And that was just in Rome. There was plenty going on in those same centuries in Persia - the persecutions became that much worse for the Church in Persia when Rome went Christian - and that was a good hundred years before any "Nestorian" was condemned.

In any case, the fact that Christianity can be used as a tool of an empire doesn't mean it is a bad thing in itself. What ideology hasn't suffered the same abuse? Should we reject Democracy because it's been used as an excuse to kill people - even under the guise of "enlightening" them?

>More money than ever before flowed to Rome and filled the Empire's coffers. Ony now it was called "Peter's Pence".

History books concentrate on the bad stuff - wars and bastards. Everybody knows that. That doesn't mean that that's all that happened. For every corrupt bishop you read about there were a hundred holy ones. They aren't mentioned because "holy" makes boring reading. Who do you think started the anti-slavery movement in the Americas anyway?

>bastards...till today Andy has the effrontery to say THEY got it wrong when he's the one who's about as lost and befuddled as a decent guy beaten over the head since childhood with a club could get.

They DID get it wrong - and they knew it and didn't care. Why is it that all the criminals in the history of the Church were the weasels who were pushed up the ladder by their Lord and Lady cousins - the weasels who couldn't care less for the faith or for Christ? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't the criminals be the ones meditating day and night on the death of Christ, staring at the crucifix and weeping with joy over their lovely Present? Why is it the other way around - why are all the sweetest, holiest Christians (till today) the ones that are the MOST into their faith? Why is it that all the child-molesting animals and greedy bishops are the ones who "pray" only when they absolutely have to and avoid everything else? Why is it that all the saintly people in the Church - the bishops who give silver candlesticks to refugees and the nuns who spend their lives providing housing to people no one else could give a damn about - are the ones who can't go to Mass ENOUGH - who won't shut up for a SECOND about Christ's death for the world? What the hell kind of poison makes you BETTER the MORE you take of it?

Your tv pal,

Andy



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